I was with you, up until eyechess popped in to be honest. He isn't cheering for an alleviation of taxes. He's cheering because someone is speaking negatively about an Indian country. That's what I was referring to.
No, I was not doing what you say at all. Thank you for the insult.
I assure you that I am not racist as a couple of reverse racists have claimed on this forum. Anyone that knows me knows I am the opposite of racist.
@EZY1981
"so anyhow, house of Staunton, the chesshouse, wholesale chess, and all those fine USA companies all are legitimate tax payers, their prices may be higher for obvious reasons "
Chessbazaar makes sets and sells all over the world. RCM makes sets and sells all over the world.
House of Staunton just buys sets from Indian companies and resells them for hefty price tag.
According to you, those who hard work to make those beautiful sets are dodgy, those who sells their own products are dodgy,
but only those middlemen companies like House of Staunton who don't make those sets but just buy from Indian company and resells in the market for hefty price are fine companies !! The companies which are exploiting the maker and the buyer is a fine company. But those who work hard for making those sets are dodgy? Great theory.
I was with you, up until eyechess popped in to be honest. He isn't cheering for an alleviation of taxes. He's cheering because someone is speaking negatively about an Indian country. That's what I was referring to.
No, I was not doing what you say at all. Thank you for the insult.
You forget to ask for an apology. Thats what you will ask when someone exposes your double standard. Won't you?
I was with you, up until eyechess popped in to be honest. He isn't cheering for an alleviation of taxes. He's cheering because someone is speaking negatively about an Indian country. That's what I was referring to.
No, I was not doing what you say at all. Thank you for the insult.
You forget to ask for an apology. Thats what you will ask when someone exposes your double standard. Won't you?
No, I only have asked you for an apology because you have insulted me, said I said things I did not say or obviously mean, and you have not relented in attacking me, as a person. Yes Mohan, you do need to apologize to me because you are very wrong about me.
I was with you, up until eyechess popped in to be honest. He isn't cheering for an alleviation of taxes. He's cheering because someone is speaking negatively about an Indian country. That's what I was referring to.
No, I was not doing what you say at all. Thank you for the insult.
You forget to ask for an apology. Thats what you will ask when someone exposes your double standard. Won't you?
No, I only have asked you for an apology because you have insulted me, said I said things I did not say or obviously mean, and you have not relented in attacking me, as a person. Yes Mohan, you do need to apologize to me because you are very wrong about me.
No, I was always right. You are biased to the core.
@EZY1981
"so anyhow, house of Staunton, the chesshouse, wholesale chess, and all those fine USA companies all are legitimate tax payers, their prices may be higher for obvious reasons "
Chessbazaar makes sets and sells all over the world. RCM makes sets and sells all over the world.
House of Staunton just buys sets from Indian companies and resells them for hefty price tag.
According to you, those who hard work to make those beautiful sets are dodgy, those who sells their own products are dodgy,
but only those middlemen companies like House of Staunton who don't make those sets but just buy from Indian company and resells in the market for hefty price are fine companies !! The companies which are exploiting the maker and the buyer is a fine company. But those who work hard for making those sets are dodgy? Great theory.
That's quite correct Mohan. Perhaps 're read my post to absorb the part about - pretending to reside in the USA CANADA UK etc...
Regarding exploitation, this is yet another misconception and those whom advocate this nonsense are not well informed ....however if you wish to play the poor Indian card then so be it. Just be advised that those western companies spend countless hundreds of thousands to tbose poor poor indian companies who have been in business ever since Frank camaratta brought them the willy wonker winner golden ticket
@EZY1981
Just blabbering. no point proven.
No one is playing poor Indian card.
"Just be advised that those western companies spend countless hundreds of thousands to tbose poor poor indian companies who have been in business"
What are you trying to convey? You are just blabbering. They earn by making sets. Not by printing currency. They are paid for their work. You are just blabbering without making any sense. As if they threw money for no reason.
Come up with something clear. Don't be so vague and nonsensical.
@EZY1981
Just blabbering. no point proven.
No one is playing poor Indian card.
"Just be advised that those western companies spend countless hundreds of thousands to tbose poor poor indian companies who have been in business"
What are you trying to convey? You are just blabbering. They earn by making sets. Not by printing currency. They are paid for their work. You are just blabbering without making any sense. As if they threw money for no reason.
Come up with something clear. Don't be so vague and nonsensical.
Actually I'm being quite factual, but you are terse and offensive.
You know nothing of the chess business but you want to sound off as though you're some expert...I lay it straight for you....the Indian manufacturers are the ones who set the product sales pricing, not the buyer ! So of course bartering goes on until both parties agree prices. Another thing is you keep advocating chess bazaar and royal chess mall, in almost all your posts , so why is that exactly ? And I have not mentioned those 2 companies in my previous posts !! Only you have
@EZY1981
"I lay it straight for you....the Indian manufacturers are the ones who set the product sales pricing, not the buyer !"
Hahaha, There is only negotiations. Not price fixing. And to your ignorance, I knew what prices they exports the products.
"You know nothing of the chess business but you want to sound off as though you're some expert..."
Hahaha, actually you are the one who speak of as if you knew everything. I am a Chartered accountant (Articled Assistant) and I knew not only chess but hell lot of exports and import businesses and their profit margin. So, keep your mouth tight before speaking about someone whom you don't know. Period.
@EZY1981
4.4" 1849 Staunton Reproduction Chess Set in Boxwood and Ebony export price is $47. Let it be the poorest quality you would find in the market, still $47 is very less. Yes, the US companies are paying customs and all those taxes, but still they are making hefty. So don't speak out about other person's knowledge without knowing them. Peace.
Actually The last 1849 price we paid was £200 each which equates to £257 landed ....
Actually The last 1849 price we paid was £200 each which equates to £257 landed ....
Quality matters. Do you put your sets and those of CB or any other random makers like Ganesh Chess or chessbyIndia in the same basket. You won't. So, quality does matters. Your sets are not the same as those which are mass produced. They are more precisely carved. Thats why the quality. Thats why the price.
@EZY1981
Is the delivery FOB means?
I was with you, up until eyechess popped in to be honest. He isn't cheering for an alleviation of taxes. He's cheering because someone is speaking negatively about an Indian country. That's what I was referring to.
No, I was not doing what you say at all. Thank you for the insult.
I assure you that I am not racist as a couple of reverse racists have claimed on this forum. Anyone that knows me knows I am the opposite of racist.
From the outside looking in, your comments and actions seem to suggest otherwise. You have made a habit of sustained, antagonistic remarks when it comes to Indian specific made chess sets. I have read your comments with my own eyes, which admittedly is subject to interpretation, but alas the age old adage of "walks like a duck" applies here.
Either way, I do not really have more to say on the subject. I have other things I need to tend.
I understand what you thought reading my responses as then explained by Mohan. This guy distorts the English language to put evil intentions where they do not exist. Look at how he is arguing with Carl here. Carl owns Official Staunton and has been importing and selling Chess sets for over 20 years. This Mohan is saying that Carl does not know or understand the business!
What I did argue is that not all, yes very few, of the very low cost sets are not made to the same quality as the more expensive sets. And both the cheap sets and the more expensive ones are made in the same country, India. So my argument has nothing to do with race.
Yes, Noj also makes high quality and high priced sets and they are in Slovenia. Yes, very low priced sets, no matter where they are made, usually are not nor cannot be of the same high quality as these sets either.
A cheap set is a cheap set no matter where it is made or who makes it. That is my point.
...and most of the sets I buy cost under $200. My favorite Staunton sets cost $320 and $358 delivered. And all the sets mentioned above were made in the same country.
@Eyechess
"This Mohan is saying that Carl does not know or understand the business!"
My comment
"actually you are the one who speak of as if you knew everything."
is a reply for his comment
"You know nothing of the chess business but you want to sound off as though you're some expert..."
And Eyechess, could you pick out the statement where I said that Carl does not know or understand the business? Because I think you are such a shameful liar.
@Eyechess
"This Mohan is saying that Carl does not know or understand the business!"
My comment
"actually you are the one who speak of as if you knew everything."
is a reply for his comment
"You know nothing of the chess business but you want to sound off as though you're some expert..."
And Eyechess, could you pick out the statement where I said that Carl does not know or understand the business? Because I think you are such a shameful liar.
I do not need to respond to you.
Your writings speak for themselves.
I also will not discuss, debate or otherwise argue with you as you are very disingenuous and will show no respect to anyone, let alone me.
@Eyechess
After searching for the statement, you understand that you can't find anything I said like "Carl doesnot know or understand the business"
and now blah blah blah blah.
Shame on you. Shame on you. You are such a pathetic liar who will bring up things which are never there and when caught red handed start blabbering. Shameful liar.
@rcmacmillan
If it amounts to unfair trading practice, were the officials sleeping? If its not within the rules, I too condemn their act. Every business will try to use things which are favourable for them.
In the "About us" page of Staunton Castle, its said that
"You are welcome to the official website named ‘Staunton Castle’ of the Company CHESS CREATION INC. established in Canada with its manufacturing origin ‘Mandeep Handicrafts’ of ‘Amritsar’, India"
Our chess crafting unit set up in Amritsar, India on the name of MANDEEP HANDICRAFTS established in year 1977. Our Canadian office is for online sale of all our products.
I think they didn't hide the facts. Instead of shipping a lot of sets and pieces which would cst them more and storing them which would even increase their cost, they ship when there is a business. If this is against law then I too are against them. But as they are registered in Canada, I think they are paying taxes for their business too. It seems like they are cutting out cost. When you do business in foreign country, you need to adapt to their language. Which name do you think will attract customers, "Mandeep Handicrafts" or "Staunton Castle"?
When a Chinese go to Italy and start a business with Chinese name would that be great and helpful for business?
I think they are correct in using a different name.
@EZY1981
"I am against Indians pretending to reside in the USA Canada UK etc, however ship from India..."
What joke is this? Did CB or RCM or any other Indian company pretend as if they were residing in USA or Canada or UK? Where did they said that? In their website?
"USA companies all are legitimate tax payers"
What is this all about? Are you drunk?