Reproduction and Real Jaques of London Chess Set

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TundraMike

They are all manufactured in India, however I have to disagree with Rulez as I know for a fact quality varies.  If you feel all the companies selling sets from India, where 95% of the sets come from, are all the same quality may I suggest you get an appointment with an eye doctor. 

GM4U
ahne49uq wrote:

It's been some time since anyone commented on Jaques itself. Has anyone got an opinion on the current quality of Jaques sets. Are these, too, manufactured in India and are they worth the premium compared to the repro sets currently being discussed?

Hi there

yes Jaques sets are also manufactured in Amritsar, India. However not to be fooled by the comment from rulzsuck....not every reseller has direct access to the top artisans, such as AIW, therefore there is a price difference in every sense simply becuase the likes of AIW charge way much more for their premium sets, and rightly so as the quality benchmark in every aspect is so much higher to many of the other smaller cottage industry middlemen, despite what is preached by some others on here be advised that only 2 perhaps 3 manufacturing hubs have the German turning machinary. Jaques also have the heritage and that history also carries a premium. I hope this answers your question. 

GM4U

Hi Guys 

Now available, the 1849 Jaques Reproduction Boxwood / Ebonised version £179.99

 http://www.officialstaunton.com/products/1849-reproduction-ebonised-staunton-chessmen

gurpreetk

@gm4u Your comment, "This idea that the lower the price the better is a typical Indian mentality which is not a winner long term!" leaves a bad taste especially when they are being left in a public forum. It shows your racist mindset. What else you know about India, other than procuring all your chess sets from India and selling them at manyfold prices making hefty profits? Why you want to work with people who have such a mindset? Hope you will be a little careful before expressing your views on "global mentalities" in future. Better stick to what you know best, selling chess sets.

GM4U
gurpreetk wrote:

@gm4u Your comment, "This idea that the lower the price the better is a typical Indian mentality which is not a winner long term!" leaves a bad taste especially when they are being left in a public forum. It shows your racist mindset. What else you know about India, other than procuring all your chess sets from India and selling them at manyfold prices making hefty profits? Why you want to work with people who have such a mindset? Hope you will be a little careful before expressing your views on "global mentalities" in future. Better stick to what you know best, selling chess sets.

Racist remark, what?? Oh dear it is VERY CLEAR what is happening here, today....behave yourself and stop creating unwarranted negativity in this forum. Racist indeed, my best friends are Indians, and I have had Indian friends and business associates for over 25 years, hence my learned remark! 

gurpreetk

Gm4u Then can you explain in which race paying more is better? Everyone cares where they are burning their money what is so special when Indians do it? Don't try to portray such a nice picture of your best friends by writing such immature comments.

GM4U
gurpreetk wrote:

Gm4u Then can you explain in which race paying more is better? Everyone cares where they are burning their money what is so special when Indians do it? Don't try to portray such a nice picture of your best friends by writing such immature comments.

it is clear you are up to no good! you have zero friends and joined this May....this post/topic is for persons interested in a top quality Jaques reproduction chess set...are you interested in such? or just here on instructions of another perhaps? 

my experience in dealing with my Indian sellers is countless emails every week ovffering the lowest possible prices, for example we receive..." MR CARL we definatly can offer you lower prices and better quality than your current suppliers"

 

"MR CARL you are paying over top for poor quality chess sets from .....etc etc..we can supply best quyality super low prices" 

Now this is my experience, and we receive hundreds of such offers over the years...so do yourself a favour, get over it!

Rishi9

Lets not get into name calling. This was a nice thread to begin with. Can't see anything racist in what GM4U mentioned. 

Also someone mentioned the word, "gangster." Has to be an Indian guy with an American flag next to it. 

I think we should continue this discussion in another thread here,http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/what-manufacturer-from-amritsar-india

There are some questions which need to be asked - will discuss in the other thread.

Lets keep the focus of this thread on 1849 Jaques.

GM4U

On the subject of QUALITY..I hope you guys dont mind, however I want to be clear in that we are unsurpassed in quality= price....take a look 

http://www.officialstaunton.com/collections/chess-sets

chessspy1

A proverb

 

 

Self-praise is no recommendation

 

Self-praise is no recommendation.

Prov. If you praise yourself, people will think that you are boastful and will not respect you.

GM4U
AlanDewey wrote:

A proverb

 

 

 

Self-praise is no recommendation

 

Self-praise is no recommendation.

Prov. If you praise yourself, people will think that you are boastful and will not respect you.

its marketing Alan, and I posted it to demonstrate to rulezsuck in particular that our quality is better than almost all other chess vendors, this isnt self praise it is fact, whether or not it is seen as boastful or even frowned upon, it is fact that our Jaques reproductions are the best that have been made so far and by a long shot and we will continue to do our very best to get as close as possible and to offer a chess set one can be really proud of owning, close to a real Jaques. ....thank you for your comment.

Blessed is he who has learned to admire but not envy, to follow but not imitate, to praise but not flatter, and to lead but not manipulate.” 
― William Arthur Ward

ipcress12

GM4U: Nice sets.

You're OK in my book.

ipcress12

GM4U: Perhaps you can answer a question that's been on my mind.

The Fischer-Spassky 1972 set was supposed to be from Jacques of London. Yet it looks somewhat different from your Jacques reproductions. The parapets on the rook are more pronounced for instance.

Is the Reykjavik set based on a later Jacques set? How did it evolve?

GM4U
ipcress12 wrote:

GM4U: Perhaps you can answer a question that's been on my mind.

The Fischer-Spassky 1972 set was supposed to be from Jacques of London. Yet it looks somewhat different from your Jacques reproductions. The parapets on the rook are more pronounced for instance.

Is the Reykjavik set based on a later Jacques set? How did it evolve?

Hi there

here is a direct link on this very subject :) 

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/will-the-real-fischer-spassky-1972-design-please-stand-up

GM4U
ipcress12 wrote:

GM4U: Nice sets.

You're OK in my book.

Thank you so much, your words are a relief! yesterday there was a blatant co-ordinated attack on my products, prices and even called a racist.....its obvious to me that the CB crew are out and about wreaking havoc! ....nonetheless, I will endevour to offer the finest quality Jaques reproductions at a fair price.

ipcress12

So the Fischer-Spassky set was based on the sixties-era Jaques pieces.

Then is the Old Club Staunton a knock-off of the sixties Jaques?

http://www.amazon.com/Deluxe-Staunton-Chess-Ebony-Boxwood/dp/B004OZKX18

House of Staunton sold a version of the Old Club a couple years ago, but not currently. My guess is that it is too similar to the various Reykjavik sets they are now emphasizing.

andy277

It wasn't based on a 1960s era Jaques, it was a 1960s era Jaques. Jaques did not make a new set for the match, they just supplied what they had in stock at the time.

I do not see any real resemblance between the Old Club Staunton and the Jaques set.

ipcress12

I do not see any real resemblance between the Old Club Staunton and the Jaques set.

Wow. I see few differences. Here's the official Jaques Fischer-Spassky:

Here's the Deluxe Old Club:

ipcress12

They are not identical. The Jacques queen's crown has less height. The Jaques rook is not as squat.

But they are much closer than most sets with different names.

aristotele1

In my opinion the old club is just a cheaper version of the other set, with simplified and more crudely carved knights. Similar sets are widely available, for instance here is one by CB:

http://www.chessbazaar.com/the-reykjavik-staunton-series-weighted-chess-pieces-in-sheesham-box-wood-3-7-king.html