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cgrau wrote:
goodknightmike wrote:

 For comparison, here's some pics of my  Averbakh set.

 

 

Great shots of an outstanding set, Mike! I like how we're going about naming the sets ourselves! The Averbakh Set. I love it. 

Thanks Chuck, Yeah, its akin to Frank C's  naming the different vintage Jaques sets. And thank you for initiating the naming process with the Tal set.

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cgrau wrote:
fightingbob wrote:
Odd how I never seem to see a thinly stemmed Soviet piece that is warped, but I'm always finding Lardys warped where a relatively thicker stem meets the collar.  Perhaps it's how dramatic the cut is on the Lardy, going from a wide, wide collar to a thin stem.  

That's a great observation. Come to think of it, I've never seen a warped Soviet set despite all the other damage they've endured over the years. I'm just guessing that Lardy used some awfully green wood.

I think one objective of the Soviets' thin stems and wide bases was to move the center of gravity down to enhance stability without much if any weighting.

Hi Chuck,

From my studies in cultural anthropology, it's common for the style of an object to go from one of necessity to one of decoration over time, such as pendulum-driven clocks to electric clocks, some with pendulums driven by electricity for mere decoration.  Another example is spoked wheels on sports cars that transitioned to spoked hubcaps placed on rimmed wheels for decoration.  Even spoked wheels themselves are no longer needed since the days of the covered wagon.

In cultural anthropology this is known as metataxis, the gradual transition of utilitarian objects or practices out of the culture by means of decoration, and sometimes as recreation, such as hunting in much of the Western World.

Anyway, from your comment as to the usefulness of the wide bases, it may be -- I repeat, may be -- why the style stuck after the Soviets could afford to weight the pieces when the regime became firmly established through the strong, unrelenting arm of The State, unfortunately.

Just thought you might find this interesting.

Best,
Bob

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goodknightmike wrote:

 For comparison, here's some pics of my  Averbakh set.

That is one nicely preserved set, Mike, and I don't see any indications of restoration either.  Thanks for posting it here so we can appreciate its attractiveness.

Best,
Bob

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fightingbob wrote:
goodknightmike wrote:

 For comparison, here's some pics of my  Averbakh set.

That is one nicely preserved set, Mike, and I don't see any indications of restoration either.  Thanks for posting it here so we can appreciate its attractiveness.

Best,
Bob

You're welcome Bob, my pleasure sharing with you. Yeah, the set is in excellent condition with no restorations.

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If it should be a completed king it must have a crown/cross lol or else it is A dead king :P

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Thechess_lone_ranger wrote:

If it should be a completed king it must have a crown/cross lol or else it is A dead king :P

A dead king indeed.  That sounds like my king against Experts and Masters.  He falls down and breaks his crown. 

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fightingbob wrote:
Thechess_lone_ranger wrote:

If it should be a completed king it must have a crown/cross lol or else it is A dead king :P

A dead king indeed.  That sounds like my king against Experts and Masters.  He falls down and breaks his crown. 

Money Mouth

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fightingbob wrote:

From my studies in cultural anthropology, it's common for the style of an object to go from one of necessity to one of decoration over time, such as pendulum-driven clocks to electric clocks, some with pendulums driven by electricity for mere decoration.  Another example is spoked wheels on sports cars that transitioned to spoked hubcaps placed on rimmed wheels for decoration.  Even spoked wheels themselves are no longer needed since the days of the covered wagon.

In cultural anthropology this is known as metataxis, the gradual transition of utilitarian objects or practices out of the culture by means of decoration, and sometimes as recreation, such as hunting in much of the Western World.

Anyway, from your comment as to the usefulness of the wide bases, it may be -- I repeat, may be -- why the style stuck after the Soviets could afford to weight the pieces when the regime became firmly established through the strong, unrelenting arm of The State, unfortunately.

Just thought you might find this interesting.

Best,
Bob

Fascinating! Thanks! I also would imagine no or less weighting meant lower production costs.

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cgrau wrote:
fightingbob wrote:

From my studies in cultural anthropology, it's common for the style of an object to go from one of necessity to one of decoration over time, such as pendulum-driven clocks to electric clocks, some with pendulums driven by electricity for mere decoration.  Another example is spoked wheels on sports cars that transitioned to spoked hubcaps placed on rimmed wheels for decoration.  Even spoked wheels themselves are no longer needed since the days of the covered wagon.

In cultural anthropology this is known as metataxis, the gradual transition of utilitarian objects or practices out of the culture by means of decoration, and sometimes as recreation, such as hunting in much of the Western World.

Anyway, from your comment as to the usefulness of the wide bases, it may be -- I repeat, may be -- why the style stuck after the Soviets could afford to weight the pieces when the regime became firmly established through the strong, unrelenting arm of The State, unfortunately.

Just thought you might find this interesting.

Best,
Bob

Fascinating! Thanks! I also would imagine no or less weighting meant lower production costs.

Chuck,

No doubt at the beginning that's exactly what it was; that's style born of necessity.  Whether it continued to be the style due to production costs or transitioned to the decorative phase due to the persistence of tradition is the question.  That's why I said "maybe."  I don't have enough knowledge to say, and I imagine it would be hard to come by at this late stage without company records.

Best,
Bob