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ShelbyLohrman wrote:
RussBell wrote:

Shiney/glossy - ugh! Flat or Matte finish is preferable.

Gold??  Isn't that a variant of .......YELLOW?   Please, not again!!

RussBell, 

These are metal sets, they all have a shine to them.  

The cool thing is that if you don't like them...it is easy...don't buy them.  Exactly what color would you expect metal sets?  Appliance white?

Thanks

Shelby Lohrman

American Chess Equipment

Wood Expressions

 

Shelby -

I'm pretty sure that metal pieces can be finished in many different ways besides shiney or glossy, including matte and flat.  And no, I am not a fan of Appliance white, but that is not the only color choice that is not gold or some other variant of yellow.   For example...

https://ammetal.com/metal-finishing-processes/powder-coating/ral-color-chart/

Here are a few other possibilities.....for instance the bottom row...i.e., Almond or Euro White...the point being, it appears to be possible to have a variety of color choices for the metal finish...and it doesn't have to be shiney!  

Nevertheless, it does appear that I will not be purchasing this set.  Nor will I bother you with any more criticism over it.  Good luck! 

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I have to agree with RussBell.  I bought a metal set when in Florence, Italy back in 2005.

Actually, I bought 2 metal sets.  None of those metal pieces has a shiny or glossy finish at all.

As I said earlier, I will not be buying this set in either color Shelby says they will be in.

As you all know, I use all my sets to play Chess.  I do not like the glossy or shiny finishes at all, especially for play.

I also do not want my Chess set to weigh 7 lbs, let alone 9 lbs or more.

Plus, my wife realized how many sets I do own during this quarantine time.  Yes, she is shaking her head at how many I own.

And I would always show her my new sets on boards when I got them.  She liked the vast majority of them as well.  I guess she just didn’t keep track of how many I got over the years 😎

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Hi Shelby...  Do you have a link and price for this metal set...?  

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Say something to chardie kai i dare ya its khai if ypur a charlie!! And whitout the h if your the real steel 

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@ShelbyLorhman -

In fact, I am aware of powder/enamel coating and that with enough abuse, it will chip.  I was attempting to apprise you of some different finishes that were not shiney-metallic.  But it seems that you were already aware.  And I was not aware that you were aware, etc., etc.

As well, I was also not aware that this set was intended for display or light casual use only.  I assumed (you know what that means!) you expected that they would be used for normal play.  But I suppose I should have realized, given the extra heavy weight, that that was not really the intent.  So my error on that.

In any case, it sounds like you know what you are trying to achieve regarding these sets.  I am just put off by shiney metal chess pieces, especially of a gold color.  So I will not be purchasing that particular set.  Having said that I wish you success in selling this set.

As always, keep up the good work Shelby!

RussBell

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Thanks Shelby.  We're waiting with bated breath....

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Are the metallic Ultimates also arriving on that September shipment, Shelby?

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That is Great, Sounds like they are due in the first week of November. Will there be a pre-sales price for those who want to get their order in early?   🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

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This month is going to hurt.

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According to Mr. Lohrman's quote-

"Took a while, but the pieces were ordered on the 5th of August and we are on 75 days production plus shipping."

This would take the production completion date to October 24th. If the shipping from China is done by sea, the arrival of the new Ultimate sets could be arriving by Thanksgiving at the latest, seems logical that they would have to be processed through the U.S. Maritime Customs division first. then released to the Ameican Chess Equipment Company for sales distribution.

Patiently we wait... by then,  I won't be around here any more to give any comment on this website

Any reviews that I will have and give of the plastic and metal Ultimates, when they arrive, will be of a private chat with Shelby Lohrman himself via a personal phone call. FYI. 

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Including the metal pieces?

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That inquiry has been answered in post #256. FYI.

 

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Thanks for the update Shelby. I assume you’re still working on your website for pre-orders?

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Thank you Shelby/ I looks as if my hope of having 2-3 sets by the holidays will be realized. I am not pre-ordering, So I would request that u put up lots of pictures on the thread, and the exact weight of the pieces as soon as possible

thanks

goommba88

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Good to hear some new updates, Shelby. 

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I would also like to commend Shelby for persevering despite the Covid pandemic. While millions of businesses are closing their doors or filing for bankruptcy worldwide, American Chess Equipment (amchesseq.com) is busy innovating new products to keep everyone entertained or distracted from everything covid. 

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Shelby,

Will your wood version of the Ultimate be similar to the set I purchased from the Rochester Chess Center?

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It looks great Shelby. When will the pre-ordering commence? I sent you an email this afternoon and you have yet to respond. Still waiting to hear from you...whenever you can, thanks.

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ShelbyLohrman wrote:

Hey LouBalch,

They had sent one of the 3 5/8" sets over a decade ago to get it copied.  These will be 3.75" and in the same proportions as the current set.  I am also using a different manufacturer.  My guy spends more time on his finish work.

thanks

Shelby Lohrman

American Chess Equipment

Shelby, I make up dimension tables for all of my chess sets. Here is the DIM table for the Ultimate Sheesham set I got from Rochester. The king actually measures 3.9", including finial. According to my sizing scheme, where Kd=76.5% and Pd=58.6%, this set is a near-perfect fit on a 2-1/8" chessboard.

Could Rochester have done more than one run with slightly different specs, or used a different supplier for subsequent orders? That's at least a 1/4" difference in king heights.

NOTE: I just rechecked the king's height with a precision digital caliper, it's 3.9" spot on.

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Product sample is looking good and works with the cardboard box with a flip top. Creamy colored light pieces with the usual matte shade for the dark pieces. I do agree that the overall presentation is batter than the carton box that the yellow version came with.