Ultimate chess set

Eyechess

You two guys take the cake.

Could it be that the market is limited and after a certain amount of numbers the sales volumes ebb naturally for a new Chess product?  The answer is, yes.

It is just a plastic chess set.  You tell him that he should devote all his attention, full time to the people in China getting the set the way you want it.  Good luck with that.

 

Snooper420

Eyechess you should spend a little more time on your reading skills. 
I did not say He should devote all his attention full-time to the people in China getting this set the way I want it. 
this is what I said:

. I think you should devote all your attention to the current chess set run to make sure it gets manufactured correctly and it’s not yellow. 

ShelbyLohrman

guys,

I love the analytic side of chess players!  You have to understand that the first year the Ultimates came out after close to 7 years of not being available to the market that there will be a HUGE bump in sales.  After that bump, sales settle down to where they are supposed to.

Before the company that made these previously for us, we averaged 500-600 units/yr in sales for this set.  

It is just like when the white version of this set comes out later this year the sales will be 1000-1200 sets in the first calendar year for that one too!

Again I will tell everyone to breathe.  All is good in the world.  Except the fact that due to the Corona virus, the factory that makes this set is now closed till the end of February.  Look for some chess supplies to be in short stock.  This factory shut down will probably hit all the chess manufacturers.

 

thanks

Shelby Lohrman

American Chess Equipment

ShelbyLohrman
Snooper420 wrote:

Eyechess you should spend a little more time on your reading skills. 
I did not say He should devote all his attention full-time to the people in China getting this set the way I want it. 
this is what I said:

. I think you should devote all your attention to the current chess set run to make sure it gets manufactured correctly and it’s not yellow. 

So you are saying since the factories are SHUT DOWN, I should sit here calmly with my hands in my lap and do nothing till the set gets produced?  LOL.  It took them 2 weeks to answer my last email due to the government mandated factory shutdowns.

My mind does not work like that.  It is ALWAYS moving on new ideas.

And to make sure it is not yellow, they will be sending me a production run sample BEFORE I approve the run.  Hard to get more focused than that.

 

thanks

Shelby Lohrman

American Chess Equipment

ShelbyLohrman

To calm everything down, listen to one of my new favorite songs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw 

Yes, I know I am fanning the flames, but I can't help myself!

Shelby

MikeDoolzinski

@ShelbyLohrman you want to work on something. Come out with some better chess related hats. Most of them out now are either kiddie style or khaki casual dad hats. 

Snooper420

Shelby, maybe you might want to try a different factory this time. You didn’t have really good luck with the last one. 

MikeDoolzinski

https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw

KnightsForkCafe

It is what it is. Until the new color arrives. Play some games with your yellow UCP set and enjoy the game of chess. Don't act like Veronica in Willy Wonka. Remember what happened to her? LOL!

Eyechess

Oh, I read just fine. 
What is he supposed to do if he only focuses on that plastic set until it is produced?

Do you not understand that there is a large startup cost with a plastic set, getting the molds made?  Yes every manufacturer makes the buyer pay the cost of the molds.  And changing manufacturers means the mold cost again.

Also, the problem was the manufacturer not making the color asked for, and that is by a color sample number that is universal.

Shelby has fixed this problem be demanding a sample before they begin production foe approval.  Fixing that problem will handle that.

Otherwise that manufacturer did a good job.  Note there are no problems with the seams and joining as there is with the HoS Collector set, for instance.

A new manufacturer might present new problems with the product.

Perhaps you should stop making unrealistic suggestions.

 

Snooper420

Eyechess I really think my suggestions are not unrealistic and are also shared by a lot of people. 
I would like no loose weights rattling around shared by Chess house

better quality felt than last time. This was also shared by Chess house

no more yellow. 
seems pretty straightforward and realistic to me

i’m so happy you were happy with the last yellow run produced. I guess I’m just way too picky. 

Eyechess

I never said I was "happy" with anything.  I guess you need to improve your reading skills.

Let's see, unrealistic:

You wrote, "I think you should devote all your attention to the current chess set run to make sure it gets manufactured correctly and it’s not yellow."  All his attention on anything like this is an unrealistic expectation and suggestion.

No one disagrees there should be no loose weights.  That was not a suggestion of yours.

Better quality felting than last time borders and even steps into the realm of unrealistic.  The last felting was alright for a plastic set.  I spoke with Raphael, you know the owner of The Chess House, and he agrees with me on this.

Shelby, has explained how he is going to get the color fixed.  What is it about what he wrote that makes you give the unrealistic suggestion he gives it all his attention until it comes out perfect?

Snooper420

Eyechess, let’s suppose everything Shelby told us was the truth about why the set was yellow the first time. This leads me to believe that if you want to do business with this factory you better devote all your attention to them because they can’t be trusted. 
The factory has  no pride and they don’t care about the success of their customers. I pretty much think that is reason enough to devote all your attention to that chess set getting manufactured properly. 
my suggestion of trying a different factory according to you is not very doable. So based on these facts I see no choice but to devote all your time and energy to this. 

Eyechess

There is no reason to think that everything Shelby told us is not true regarding the making of this set.  I have known and bought a lot for my Chess clubs, both scholastic and regular, as well as for me from Shelby for a long time, well over 9 years.

I have talked with him about product he had developed and then had made.  This includes, but is not limited to, 3 different Chess bags with one being in a nice leather, the V-Tek 300 Chess clock, at least 5 different types and colors of roll up chess boards, and at least 2 solid boards.  Oh yes, and also I have worked with him when he was designing and having produced at least 3 Chess sets.

Shelby is good at bringing Chess stuff to market that is really good and purchased by many in both scholastics and regular chess.

The ONLY real problem is the color of this one Chess set came out more yellow than expected.  Note that we have seen at least one or two other sets, produced elsewhere, with the White pieces being just as yellow and one was even more yellow.

Everything else has been grand and great from Shelby.

This company that he is working with has produced a nice set, except their color choice, at production, was more yellow than anyone on this side of the ocean expected.  Now Shelby is getting it fixed.  It certainly does not need even most of his attention, let alone all of it as you so unrealistically suggest.

Snooper420

The factory did not do a nice job. I didn’t speak to the owner of Chess House just a manager. I was told a lot of the sets had loose weights and felt problems. I also happen to know Chess house was not happy with the quality. That is the reason they stopped carrying it. I don’t believe any of this is Shelby‘s fault but I do believe the factory sucks. 
On the other page I quoted an article that was written by Chess house they are not happy with the quality. 
I want to own a really nice plastic chess set. Nothing more nothing less. 

MikeDoolzinski

@Snooper420 Then move on and go get your quality chess set. You insist that this set is disgusting to look at and physically horrible. If no set on the current chess market meets your standard. By all means dig the pennies out of the couch, collect tin cans and sell your food stamps two for one. Save it all up and wow us with what you think is the finest and last chess set we will ever buy. 

 

DrChesspain

https://youtu.be/jKGjOE_7bYI

MikeDoolzinski

Reminds me of these forums...

https://youtu.be/FQ5YU_spBw0

Eyechess

Ooh, ooh, I want my set have the Knights say, “Ni!”, whenever they are picked up.  And I certainly don’t want my fighting pieces to be yellow.  Tsk, tsk, what cowards they will be...

MikeDoolzinski

I don't care what color Mr Ed is. Just fix the loose weights. 😎