1.a3!!

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Fixedthx wrote:

a3 a6!!

a3!! a6! c4!!

cdaguer1
Alissazz a écrit :

Wow

Yeah 

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Savage47 wrote:
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Fixedthx wrote:

a3 a6!!

a3 a6 c4? 

2...e5 *yawn =

3. b4!

poucin
Savage47 a écrit :

IMO the best way to play 1.a3 is just to play your black openings reversed. You already know how to play the openings and often a3 can turn into a useful move. For example: 1.a3, e5 2. e4, Nf6 3. Nc3 and black can't play a reversed Ruy. 

Sure you're throwing away white's advantage But outside of a Queen's gambit or Ruy (and maybe a couple other openings) you're pretty much doing that anyway. The practical advantage of knowing the opening better than your opponent should count for something. Engines will typically throw their entire opening book out the window very early and yet you're in positions you know and are comfortable in. 

Thats indeed the point of 1.a3 : playing a reverse position where a3 is useful.

Certainly not for playing b4, white doesn't aim to play a Sokolsky opening...

1.a3 is correct and is stronger than some may think...

 

chessm9896

Здравствуйте, есть ход a3 у белых. Но этот ход неправильный, и не даёт никакого развития. B3 намного лучше цель-слон на b2. На международных соревнованиях не тот и не тот ход не употребляется а это значит он не нужный.

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Savage47 wrote:
1a41-0 wrote:
Savage47 wrote:
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Fixedthx wrote:

a3 a6!!

a3 a6 c4? 

2...e5 *yawn =

3. b4????

3...c5 (black is threatening cxb4 which not only wins a pawn but I would argue the passed a pawn plus the other advantages is a virtually won game for black) 

4. bxc5, Bxc5 black is better. Better center and lead in development. 

4. b5, axb5 5. cxb5, d5 Black is crushing

4. Qa4, Nf6 black is at least =

4. Bb2 the only challenging move for white. Still 4... Nc6 looks equal. Protects the pawn. Can come to d4. Black is still threatening the b pawn. White's lack of KS development and lack of a center looks like black will have a strong initiative at the very least. 

Bb2 is best

Still, after Nc6 white has more space and will keep developing (even if he loses b4)

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Optimissed wrote:
blueemu wrote:

After 1. a3 e5 the correct move is 2. c4.

Only if white wants a reversed Kan, which isn't very good for white.

why?

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chessm9896 wrote:

Здравствуйте, есть ход a3 у белых. Но этот ход неправильный, и не даёт никакого развития. B3 намного лучше цель-слон на b2. На международных соревнованиях не тот и не тот ход не употребляется а это значит он не нужный.

b3 is a good alternative, though i like a3 to troll your opponent and make him/her think that you are stupid.

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WorldChessMentor wrote:

VERY IMPORTANT TIP!

The move 1.a3 might be not that bad for guys like Magnus Carlsen, and even he plays like that only in blitz, but not for low-rated chess players. The main point is this: at a lower or even middle level you must learn to improve your game and play according to the "correct" rules. Such openings as 1.a3 will not teach the "correct", fundamental way of playing which is absolutely a must. The bottom line is: first learn to play very well, to play classically, to follow the fundamental rules, to know the basic and advanced classical structures, plans and maneouvres and when you achieve a high level, you might have fun with moves like 1.a3 but even then better in blitz.

at lower levels, 1. b3 is good

the setup is b3, c4, d4, e3, Nf3, etc...

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1a41-0 wrote:
Savage47 wrote:
1a41-0 wrote:
Savage47 wrote:
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Fixedthx wrote:

a3 a6!!

a3 a6 c4? 

2...e5 *yawn =

3. b4????

3...c5 (black is threatening cxb4 which not only wins a pawn but I would argue the passed a pawn plus the other advantages is a virtually won game for black) 

4. bxc5, Bxc5 black is better. Better center and lead in development. 

4. b5, axb5 5. cxb5, d5 Black is crushing

4. Qa4, Nf6 black is at least =

4. Bb2 the only challenging move for white. Still 4... Nc6 looks equal. Protects the pawn. Can come to d4. Black is still threatening the b pawn. White's lack of KS development and lack of a center looks like black will have a strong initiative at the very least. 

Bb2 is best

Still, after Nc6 white has more space and will keep developing (even if he loses b4)

even if it IS equal, b4 is not a super blunder

drmrboss

According to Leela ( The best chess player in the world that beats Stockfish in TCEC), she give a3 as 50% chance of winning , but she sees e4 and d4 as 55%.

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drmrboss wrote:

According to Leela ( The best chess player in the world that beats Stockfish in TCEC), she give a3 as 50% chance of winning , but she sees e4 and d4 as 55%.

 

1.a3 is mostly trolling your opponent and thinking that you suck a lot

DrSpudnik

Maybe this will help clear things up:

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DrSpudnik wrote:

Maybe this will help clear things up:

 

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wha???

DrSpudnik

Unfortunately, I only saved one diagram from winnersp's forum threads before he got canned.

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1g41-0 wrote:

Hey I thought it was 1.a4!! 

But actually, the best move is 1.g4!!!!

1.g4!!!! is 4 exclamation marks, but that's an overflow, so it is just 1.g4

1.a3!! is obviously better

123AbdulM
drmrboss wrote:

According to Leela ( The best chess player in the world that beats Stockfish in TCEC), she give a3 as 50% chance of winning , but she sees e4 and d4 as 55%.

 

But how do you know that the 50% is from pawn move instead of knight move?

WCPetrosian

The new book Side-Stepping Mainline Theory by Gerald Welling & Steve Giddins uses the Old Indian and Hanham Philidor as black and also presents playing the setup as white too. The authors don't use 1 a3 though, 1 e4 is first move. 

WCPetrosian

I have the book. I like it. I'm tired of having to use a bunch of books with a mountain of plans and an ocean of theory to deal with. I'm going to play my entire repertoire from that one book. It will take time adjusting to playing different patterns than I'm used to. 

WCPetrosian
YareYareWawa wrote:
brink2017 wrote:

I have the book. I like it. I'm tired of having to use a bunch of books with a mountain of plans and and ocean of theory to deal with. I'm going to play my entire repertoire from that one book. It will take time adjusting to playing different patterns than I'm used to. 

I am the opposite and can say for theory heavy players,  it's very possible to goad someone who plays 1.a3 into mainlines where ratings don't matter so much as precise moves so be careful

The book doesn't use 1 a3. It uses 1 e4 and heads for the setup.