1. b3 vs 1. g3

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AlbAmchess wrote:
kraunak60 wrote:

First move can be good or bad for white?

Whether either of these are good or not is irrelevant. The question is which of the 2 is better

The thing is that the first move is not better itself. It depends on the other moves. For a player d4 would be better and e4 be bad and vice-versa.

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Not many people know how to face on 1.b3, so you can swindle some players on the lower levels, but 1.g3 is definitely better, leading to either a reverse Grunfeld or an English opening in most cases.

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Simon_ESIEE wrote:

Not many people know how to face on 1.b3, so you can swindle some players on the lower levels, but 1.g3 is definitely better, leading to either a reverse Grunfeld or an English opening in most cases.

B3 doesn't weaken you king's squares. G3 does.

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play g3 and castle queenside. kingside problem solved

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Lord_Ultron wrote:

play g3 and castle queenside. kingside problem solved

Then don't castle queenside with b3 

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B1ZMARK wrote:

g3 because birds opening and catalan/English setups

I agree also g3 has a KIA potential which is one of the most tactical openings for white

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JackRoach a écrit :
Simon_ESIEE wrote:

Not many people know how to face on 1.b3, so you can swindle some players on the lower levels, but 1.g3 is definitely better, leading to either a reverse Grunfeld or an English opening in most cases.

B3 doesn't weaken you king's squares. G3 does.

 

It's much less effective to try getting the control of the center via the a1 diagonal rather than the h1 diagonal, beacause in order to play around said diagonal you would have to play f4 for b3 and c4 for b3, and f4 weakens the structure the most.

Playing g3 doesn't weaken in anyway your structure, albeit you could still go for an alterned move order with 1.Nf3 first, whereas the same scheme is a bit trickier when fianchetto-ing queenside. The plan Be6-Qd7-Bh3 isn't easily feasible without White counterattacking, and probably not even the best plan, playing around h5 might be better.

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Simon_ESIEE wrote:
JackRoach a écrit :
Simon_ESIEE wrote:

Not many people know how to face on 1.b3, so you can swindle some players on the lower levels, but 1.g3 is definitely better, leading to either a reverse Grunfeld or an English opening in most cases.

B3 doesn't weaken you king's squares. G3 does.

 

It's much less effective to try getting the control of the center via the a1 diagonal rather than the h1 diagonal, beacause in order to play around said diagonal you would have to play f4 for b3 and c4 for b3, and f4 weakens the structure the most.

Playing g3 doesn't weaken in anyway your structure, albeit you could still go for an alterned move order with 1.Nf3 first, whereas the same scheme is a bit trickier when fianchetto-ing queenside. The plan Be6-Qd7-Bh3 isn't easily feasible without White counterattacking, and probably not even the best plan, playing around h5 might be better.

Agreed.

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I personally prefer 1. g3 but I occasionally also play 1. b3 and enjoy some of the resulting positions.

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1.g3

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Marty435 wrote:
Simon_ESIEE wrote:
JackRoach a écrit :
Simon_ESIEE wrote:

Not many people know how to face on 1.b3, so you can swindle some players on the lower levels, but 1.g3 is definitely better, leading to either a reverse Grunfeld or an English opening in most cases.

B3 doesn't weaken you king's squares. G3 does.

 

It's much less effective to try getting the control of the center via the a1 diagonal rather than the h1 diagonal, beacause in order to play around said diagonal you would have to play f4 for b3 and c4 for b3, and f4 weakens the structure the most.

Playing g3 doesn't weaken in anyway your structure, albeit you could still go for an alterned move order with 1.Nf3 first, whereas the same scheme is a bit trickier when fianchetto-ing queenside. The plan Be6-Qd7-Bh3 isn't easily feasible without White counterattacking, and probably not even the best plan, playing around h5 might be better.

Agreed.

get out of here fake master

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Phantom_Beast23 wrote:
Marty435 wrote:

1.g3 because it doesn't give up the center unlike 1.b3

you know it's good when an FM agrees with you

stop praising the fake master

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royalknight101 wrote:
Phantom_Beast23 wrote:
Marty435 wrote:

1.g3 because it doesn't give up the center unlike 1.b3

you know it's good when an FM agrees with you

you know its better when 2 NM's agree with you

NM and FM are trash 

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eliteclassroom12 wrote:
royalknight101 wrote:
Phantom_Beast23 wrote:
Marty435 wrote:

1.g3 because it doesn't give up the center unlike 1.b3

you know it's good when an FM agrees with you

you know its better when 2 NM's agree with you

NM and FM are trash 

no we are better than 99% of people on chess.com

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eliteclassroom12 wrote:
Marty435 wrote:
Simon_ESIEE wrote:
JackRoach a écrit :
Simon_ESIEE wrote:

Not many people know how to face on 1.b3, so you can swindle some players on the lower levels, but 1.g3 is definitely better, leading to either a reverse Grunfeld or an English opening in most cases.

B3 doesn't weaken you king's squares. G3 does.

 

It's much less effective to try getting the control of the center via the a1 diagonal rather than the h1 diagonal, beacause in order to play around said diagonal you would have to play f4 for b3 and c4 for b3, and f4 weakens the structure the most.

Playing g3 doesn't weaken in anyway your structure, albeit you could still go for an alterned move order with 1.Nf3 first, whereas the same scheme is a bit trickier when fianchetto-ing queenside. The plan Be6-Qd7-Bh3 isn't easily feasible without White counterattacking, and probably not even the best plan, playing around h5 might be better.

Agreed.

get out of here fake master

you're the only fake master here. It's no wonder you closed your titled account to permanently switch to an untitled account so you can troll without looking making FMS look bad.

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I think even more than 99 probably, before my tilt it said 97 for me

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 Percentile
 
 
 100%

 

lol

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Marty435 wrote:
eliteclassroom12 wrote:
Marty435 wrote:
Simon_ESIEE wrote:
JackRoach a écrit :
Simon_ESIEE wrote:

Not many people know how to face on 1.b3, so you can swindle some players on the lower levels, but 1.g3 is definitely better, leading to either a reverse Grunfeld or an English opening in most cases.

B3 doesn't weaken you king's squares. G3 does.

 

It's much less effective to try getting the control of the center via the a1 diagonal rather than the h1 diagonal, beacause in order to play around said diagonal you would have to play f4 for b3 and c4 for b3, and f4 weakens the structure the most.

Playing g3 doesn't weaken in anyway your structure, albeit you could still go for an alterned move order with 1.Nf3 first, whereas the same scheme is a bit trickier when fianchetto-ing queenside. The plan Be6-Qd7-Bh3 isn't easily feasible without White counterattacking, and probably not even the best plan, playing around h5 might be better.

Agreed.

get out of here fake master

you're the only fake master here. It's no wonder you closed your titled account to permanently switch to an untitled account so you can troll without looking making FMS look bad.

I attempted to read your comment and I cannot comprehend what you are trying to say"looking making FMS look bad"