1. e4 vs 1. d4

  • #121

    i cant play d4 because of kings indian defense.what is your ideas?

  • #122
    ballak200 wrote:

    i cant play d4 because of kings indian defense.what is your ideas?

    avoid it

  • #123

    1.d4 is more positional. 1.e4 is more aggresive.

    Both openings are good choices.It depends on whether you are an attacking player or a defensive one.

  • #124

    If you look at games of Spassky or Kasparov, you can't say that 1.d4 is not "more aggressive".

  • #125

    They had no problem making trouble on either side of 1.d4.

  • #126

    Yes. The activity or passivity of an opening move has more to do with the person playing it than the move itself.

  • #127

    1.d4 isn't aggreesive from the start. 1.e4 openings can go directly to attack within a very short period of time. 1.d4 openings provide more king safety and thus make attack impossible until at least the middle game.

     

    15 moves:

     

    22 moves:

    Attack isn't as immeditate in 1.d4 openings. 


  • #128

    A 'boring' player in d4.



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

  • #129

    I love it when players claim that 1.e4 has been studied to death in comparison to 1.d4.

    Have you studied the QGD or the King's Indian? There is barely anything there that has not already been scanned and studied by someone else.

    It's not any less studied than the Ruy Lopez.

  • #130
    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

  • #131
    Yereslov wrote:
    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

    It's theory, as much as I love the idea of a 1300 questioning a super GM World Championship challenger.

  • #132
    Scottrf wrote:
    Yereslov wrote:
    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

    It's theory, as much as I love the idea of a 1300 questioning a super GM World Championship challenger.

    It doesn't take a 2000+ rated player to realize that checking the king and then having to move the queen to a passive position is a mistake.

    Actually, checking with Houdini it agree, so obviously this "theory" can be disregarded as a waste of time.

  • #133
    Scottrf wrote:
    Yereslov wrote:
    Scottrf wrote:

    A 'boring' player in d4.

     



    e4 or d4 can both be aggressive, it's just one move...

    8.Qa4+ cannot be a logical move.

    It's theory, as much as I love the idea of a 1300 questioning a super GM World Championship challenger.

    By the way, this Super GM gave up a pawn for nothing. Not even a lowly 1400+ rated player would make that kind of mistake.

    By simply playing 9...Qc7 he has a nice position.

  • #134

    Such a nice position white wins 55% of games in the line on chessgames and loses 21%.

  • #135

    Scottrf, it's much better than giving up a pawn for nothing. 9...Qc7 is the best move in that position.

    It can't really be argued.

  • #136

    You were saying Qa4 was the bad move for white...theory and a very successful line.

    And that Qc7 would give black a nice position; winning 18% and losing 55% which is obviously a fantastic return.

  • #137
    Scottrf wrote:

    You were saying Qa4 was the bad move for white...theory and a very successful line.

    And that Qc7 would give black a nice position; winning 18% and losing 55% which is obviously a fantastic return.

    You are focusing way too much on ratings and statistics. In that position 9...Qc7 saves the pawn. It's the only good move.

  • #138

    You seem to think that GM's are flawless. They are human. Try to remember that.

  • #139
    Yereslov wrote:
    Scottrf wrote:

    You were saying Qa4 was the bad move for white...theory and a very successful line.

    And that Qc7 would give black a nice position; winning 18% and losing 55% which is obviously a fantastic return.

    You are focusing way too much on ratings and statistics. In that position 9...Qc7 saves the pawn. It's the only good move.

    I didn't say it wasn't, but the results suggest it doesn't give black a nice position either.

    I didn't say they were flawless but I do think that if a good number of GMs are playing 9...b5 giving up the pawn 'for nothing', that perhaps they see something the amazing Yereslov doesn't.

  • #140

    No, I just did a quick analysis with Houdini 1.5.

    The early b pawn push cost black a pawn.

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