Aren't you forced to open with c4 because of 1.Nf3 d5? What am I missing?
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 : what move order to choose?
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Obviously that post wasn't there when I typed mine, guess that confirms it though?
@Skynet
You really need to nose around through an opponent's games to see whether you have a chance of getting the opening you want, and if so how to get it.
I don't know if you can find out anything worthwhile without premium membership* though...
If I knew (or strongly suspected) that an opponent wanted a particular opening I would do (almost) everything possible to deny them that opening... unless it was one I wanted to play myself. 
P.S. * And an opponent might play at different sites and use different openings at different sites to mask which openings they were good at. 
@Fiveofswords and @Game_of_Pawns :
I've got no problem against 1. Nf3 d5 2. d4. I play the Catalan, Slow Slav, QGA main line. But that's not relevant to this thread.
In this thread I'm concerned about the move order to choose after 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 :
When should I play g3+Bg2 exactly?
When should I play Nc3 exactly?
When should I play d2-d4 exactly?
When should I castle exactly?
@Murgen : No. I don't want to choose my openings based on my opponent. I don't want to play different openings for different opponents. I want to always play the same openings regardless of my opponent.
Well, u can avoid some defence on 1.d4 by delaying this move, thats your point and many strong players do the same.
The first question is starting with 1.Nf3 or 1.c4?
U pointed out that 1.c4 allows e5 and if u dont like to play a reverse sicilian, then 1.Nf3 is the move, followed by 2.c4.
The other problem is 1.Nf3 d5, then u have to choose between playing a queen's gambit, or trying something independant with 2.c4, once again, it depends on what u are playing on 1.d4 d5. For instance if u want to enter exchance queens gambit with Nge2 possiblity, then 1.Nf3 is not the move... But u told u play Catalan, so not a problem.
So 1.Nf3 is good if u want to play Nf3 whatever the variation from opposite side and it seems ok with you repertoire.
About 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.c4 g6, if u play 3.d4, Black can enter a Benko gambit with 3...c5 4.d5 b5 (of course d5 not forced), so u should play 3.Nc3, which will prevent b5 thus Benko's tranposition, and then, u can play d4, but g3, Bg2, 0-0 and only then d4 is perfect too, if u dont have any problem playing symmetrical English.
The good point about 3.Nc3 is that u can play anti Grunfeld, with Qa4 or Qb3 stuff, but if u just want to tranpose into Grunfeld with g3, doesnt make any difference.
@IM poucin:
Thanks, very helpful answer.
So against 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6
I can already rule out 3. d4 since I don't want to allow Black to play the Benko Gambit.
The move 3. Nc3 gives me the possibility to play the Anti-Grünfeld with 3...d5 4. Qa4, but since I don't want to play this (against the Grünfeld I play the Fianchetto Variation) I believe I can also rule this move out.
Which leaves only one move: 3. g3 - since I want to make a Kingside Fianchetto anyways why not just do it as early as possible.
But after 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. g3 Bg7 4. Bg2, how do I respond to 4...O-O and 4...d6 ?
Do I start with 5. Nc3, 5. O-O or 5. d4 ? What differences does it make?
Hello.
I would like to play these three openings as White:
But I don’t know what move order I should choose in order to enter in these openings.
I believe that I should start with 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4.
Starting with 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3 is completely useless for White because it allows Black too many possibilities and it allows Black to grab the whole center for himself. It’s only a good idea if we intend to play the King’s Indian Attack, but I don’t want to play it so I can forget about 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3.
Starting with 1. d4 allows Black to play the Benko Gambit, the modern Benoni, the Czech Benoni, the Snake Benoni, the Budapest Gambit, the Albin Countergambit and the Bogo-Indian Defense.
Starting with 1. c4 allows Black to play the Reversed Sicilian.
Starting with 1. d4 or 1. c4 may give White many extra options (like for example against the King’s Indian Defense: going into the Sämisch Variation, the Averbakh Variation and the Four Pawns Attack), but I will never use these extra options anyways. And since these extra options are useless to me, starting with 1. d4 or 1. c4 has only disadvantages with no advantages compared to starting with 1. Nf3.
Thus I think I should just start with 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 in order to avoid many of Black’s possibilities.
But after 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 g6, what move order should I choose next?
Could you explain exactly what Black options each move order avoids and allows?
Thanks in advance for your answers.