1.d4 2.c4 is cheating

Yuri_K, post 15 : there is only ONE  trap after 1.d4 d5  2.c4, possible after Albin's Counter-Gambit  1. d4 d5  2. c4 e5, and that is Lasker's Trap when this follows :  3. dxe5 d4  4. e3 Bb4+  5. Bd2 dxe3    IF 6. Bxb4 exf2+  7. Ke2 fxg1=N+  and black wins.

When you say "many traps", mention them all here now !

Stop calling 1.d4 d5  2.c4 cheating, it isn't.

Yuri : be exact, please, you mention 1 d4 d5  2. c4 only and the video gives information after 2.  ...  dxc4, the accepted version, that is something else.

Read post 4 and others and let's stop these misunderstandings, 1. d4 d5  2. c4 is quite normal.

Because many players low ratings do that ! ! ! Then so many traps

You defend cheating vs players at low ratings ? ? why ? ?

I'm lost. WTH is this topic about anyway? lol

You are high ratings, you know to avoid traps. Low ratings players always fall to the traps. that opening alone win game. is cheating.

Don't know where your line suddenly comes from, but

4.Na3 (Nc3)

7...., Qd7 (Qc6) and

8. Qxd7 (Qb3)

are sub-optimal moves

You can't cheat in chess as long as you stay within the rules. Maybe look for another word instead of cheating?

@Yuri: You realize that the fact those traps exist is good for low-rated players because they have to remember them in order of avoiding them. This, of course, make them stronger. It can also be quite exciting to learn them and one can learn some creative ideas and patterns from them.

OK EXAMPLE WHY OPENING IS UNFAIR:

a player with ratings 1000 can beat players ratings 1300 if 1000 learns opening and 1300 fall to the traps. i play vs 1300 players - some fall to traps showed in Kingcrusher video.

1000 should never beat 1300

but with opening,  1000 can beat 1300. (i think). thats why is unfair

OK, I get what you mean.

But it's not really cheating nor is it unfair.

Maybe you could call it cheap. Like in "you are using a cheap trick"

"1000 should never beat 1300"

I totally disagree with you. There is only 300 hundred points difference between them. I have won people with a rating of 2200 (OTB [FIDE ELO] of course) when my ELO was only 1700. Things like that happen all the time and if your opponent doesn't know the opening it is entirely his/her fault.

LMAO

Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

I think you mean the dangerous Grunfeld and sterile Budapest...

Yes, playing 1.d4 2.c4 at once is cheating. :)

Correct, if both are played together on move 1. Was waiting for someone to mention that, lol.

She's right!

My Houdini said mate in 141 after 1.d4! 1...d5 2.c4!

Mate in 144 after 1.d4! 1...Nf6 2.c4!

And so on, except for one move...

1...a5!

With a drawn game

This nonsense gets right to the point of what this thread is about.

Nothing.

The 1000 player went out of his way to search for external sources of information (eg. youtube videos) in order to improve his opening knowledge. He spends time memorizing lines. After he successfully pulls off a trap, he's up a piece, but he still has to be good enough (or at least not weak enough) to carry that advantage against a 1300 player until the endgame and win.

The 1000 player deserves to win in that case. And the reason why he deserves it is because he has learned more stuff, he's improved. His rating SHOULD increase, otherwise it wouldn't correctly represent the actual player skill.

A 1000 player is not rated 1000 for the rest of his life after all. If he's learned more stuff, it's only fair that his rating goes up.

Am I the only one who is suspecting the OP of trolling?

WOW, lol.