1.e4 e5 2.Ne2

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when an engine in high depth says you are worse than a pawn down as white , (on simple natural moves!), there is virtually no room for disagreement.

they are not even any traps or anything. all black has to keep in mind is not to go 0-0 into that rook file which is prettty obvious. go for 0-0-0. protect your d pawn and develop. there is zero equality here. black is just much better.

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Where would you be without a computer? I am just not convinced you could handle this as black. I would probably draw you if you had best play. Did you notice the evaluation doesn't really fluctuate from -1? After 25 moves, it can't change that number. That means there's drawing possibilities.

 

 

 

 

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DeathstaIker wrote:

Where would you be without a computer? I am just not convinced you could handle this as black. I would probably draw you if you had best play. Did you notice the evaluation doesn't really fluctuate from -1? After 25 moves, it can't change that number. That means there's drawing possibilities.

 

 

 

 

chess is not your strong suit is it?

let me put it in a simple way.

Giving pawns away in the opening for no compensation is not Good. THIS is not good QED

im using an engine only to show that even a club level player's sensible continuation gives you over a pawn advantage. if there was any real compensation, engine would give a -0.7 or lower. 

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As a life long fan of the theories of Alapin, I think it is prudent that the line in question be placed in some context.

It apparently stems from a game between one B.S Queenabber and David Bronstein

The said game in question was a played at odds when Bronstein was the ripe old age of 14 and yes, according to Bronstein, BS Queenabber was actually a player.

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followthebuzzard wrote:

As a life long fan of the theories of Alapin, I think it is prudent that the line in question be placed in some context.

It apparently stems from a game between one B.S Queenabber and David Bronstein

The said game in question was a played at odds when Bronstein was the ripe old age of 14 and yes, according to Bronstein, BS Queenabber was actually a player.

lmao BS Queenabber

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RubenHogenhout schreef:
Rogalentis schreef:

Is it playable?

Does it give black an advantage?

 

I faced it only one time with black. It went like this.

 

 
The rest I don t remember. Its too long ago.
 
 
Or it is also possible it went like this.
 

 

 
Then 5.fxe5 Nxe4 seems the most logical.
 

 

 

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I’m gonna try this
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chud848 wrote:
I’m gonna try this

Before you do.

If you intend 1.e4 e5 2.Ne2 Nf6 3.Nbc3 then you should be alright as it is fairly straight forward and should give you a slight plus. Check out the games of Alapin's games from Berlin 1897 and Vienna 1898

If you intend 3.f4 then again 3...Nxe4 (The Knights Tour) should not be to much of an issue

Mind you, keep this in mind. The above has happaned to me more than a few times when i played 2.Ne2.

Finally:

Enjoy

 

 

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and im not particularly impressed with white's position one bit. White is lucky if he walks away with equality. 

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I had no idea it existed

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With 3 Ng3 it is called Howe`s Opening. One can get a book on it, by the way.