1.e4 f5 : me and my oversized ego vs all of you

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JMB2010

Houdini prefers Bd6 by a landslide.

Doggy_Style
JMB2010 wrote:

Houdini prefers Bd6 by a landslide.

Okay, all the major engines have now spoken, as one voice.

 



SocialPanda

Yes, it was 7... Bd6:

Irontiger

Sounds like a bad case of miscalculation from my part. Indeed, the e6 pawn will not hold for long, and Black manages to castle.

Bah, I still have one more pawn, so 8.fxe6 :

SocialPanda

8... Qe7

Doggy_Style

Bitchin' hardware, Panda!

 

Stockfish also likes Qe7.

Aetheldred

Komodo also likes Qe7.

Doggy_Style

Was 0-0 somewhere on the list?



Stockfish has 0-0 third, about a pawn worse that Qe7.

johnyoudell

I like 0-0.

0random
LongIslandMark wrote:
johnyoudell wrote:

I like 0-0.

Irontiger indicates he will ignore "I like" posts that have no backing analysis. See post #79. Loekbergman (did I spell that correctly, I hope?) gave a post where his analysis was in white text so it was easy for Irontiger to not see it.

EDIT: Sorry if that sounded uninviting - it was not meant so. What do you like about 0-0?

I like 0-0.

johnyoudell

Irontiger is right to ignore "I like" posts. When the engines agree it makes sense for their preferred move to be played.

I posted the fact that I like 0-0 because when I looked at the position it is the move I thought I would play and then I saw that other people liked that move too but the computers are close to unanimous on their move.

Why did I think 0-0 is the move I would play? Well it is not machine like calculation. It is just the application of familiar principles. It gets the king out of harm's way, brings the king's rook towards the centre and at a time when white is some way from castling and has his queen and king sitting invitingly on the same file. I expect to attack and win the vulnerable e pawn and I like the idea of having the option of taking the pawn with a rook if I can thereby gain a tempo on white's queen.

None of this stacks up against concrete calculation. If the timing works for white to get his king to safety in time, then moving the rook from the half open f file to the e file might waste a tempo not gain one. But my instincts are to get castled and see what that rook might be able to achieve.

0random

I play 0-0 cause yolo

InfiniteFlash

You know what's going to happen if Irontiger is a human, right? Either he will blunder all of his advantage away instantly

OR

His advantage of +1.2 will drop to 1.1, then 1.0, then .9 etc....all the way to 0.0 and beyond.

LoekBergman

Sjeng gives Qe7 as the first move.

I was surprised about fxe6. I expected Irontiger to play something like Nh3 0-0 0-0.

@LongIslandMark: I understand it, so yes, it is a correct spelling. I would for instance understand MaxEuwe avatar too. :-)

ANZARBOND007

0-0

Shuhister

Qe7 now because of f4-f5 threat... If white will cover their Weak pawn with another pawn - it won't be weak any more, it will be a monster.

ibanezb90

What about Qc7? 

Analysis by Rybka 4 x64:

1. +/-  (0.88): 8...Qd8-e7

2. +/-  (1.12): 8...Qd8-c7

Analysis by Deep Rybka 4 SSE42 x64:

1. +/-  (0.81): 8...Qd8-e7 

2. +/-  (1.15): 8...Qd8-c7

3. +-  (1.45): 8...0-0

 4. +-  (1.60): 8...Kb8-c6 

johnyoudell

If f4 after castles I think I'd try Bxe6.

Irontiger
InfiniteFlash wrote:

You know what's going to happen if Irontiger is a human, right? Either he will blunder all of his advantage away instantly

OR

His advantage of +1.2 will drop to 1.1, then 1.0, then .9 etc....all the way to 0.0 and beyond.

If it drops slow enough for me to reach a won endgame, I still win the game.

Of course, that's a big if, considering that I totally missed ...Bd6.

johnyoudell

Many years ago I had a Novag Diamond (dedicated chess machine, precurser to the modern programmes). I found it psychologically impossible to play against expressly because of the evaluation figure flashing in a little screen on the machine. I would use my opening books and get to about +0.5. Now once this wretched machine got to +0.5 against me I might as well resign. Inexorably the figure would rise and I would be like a rabbit stuck in the glare of that little screen with little or no fight left in me, inwardly resigned to my fate. But when I was at +0.5 the opening would be coming to an end, my books could no longer help, and inevitably the number would start to slip just as described above.

Horrible.

I remember another psychological trick it had was for this light to wink while it was thinking. And it would do that when it was its turn to move and on my time. Now that is unheard of - close to cheating in my view. When it is my opponent's move I walk about, look at other games, go to the loo, anything but spend time on the position on the board. But not that devilish machine. It just sat there. Thinking.

Finished up I couldn't even think while it was my turn. Just sat staring at that winking light.

Aaaaarrrggg.