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1.e4 or 1.d4
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e4. Of, course it all depend on taste. Sometimes I play Nf3.
philtheforce wrote:
E4 is alright if you know what you are doing! However, i open with d4 ... but if you open with d4 it tends to be a very tactical game. Aggresive players tend to play e4, however d4 can lead to aggressive lines if you know what you are doing.
What are you talking about? 1. d4 is way more positional than tactical.
benedictus wrote:
philtheforce wrote:
E4 is alright if you know what you are doing! However, i open with d4 ... but if you open with d4 it tends to be a very tactical game. Aggresive players tend to play e4, however d4 can lead to aggressive lines if you know what you are doing.
What are you talking about? 1. d4 is way more positional than tactical.
Depends on how you treat the opening. For example. what white might try against black's main tries:
queens gambit /slav /semislav: play a line with g4 and castling queenside
nimzo-indian: samisch
kings indian: samisch
grunfeld: go for the Nf3/Rb1 line
benoni: f4 and Bb5+
dutch: staunton gambit
Some of these lines are unfashionable, but you will get a tactical game for sure.
I play e4, leads to aggresive tricky tactical lines like the mozio gambit, fried liver attack and the max lange attack. Also d4 DOES lead to a more positional game than e4, d4 will and can still have tactics but not to the extent e4 has.
I agree
Alphastar18 wrote:
benedictus wrote:
philtheforce wrote:
E4 is alright if you know what you are doing! However, i open with d4 ... but if you open with d4 it tends to be a very tactical game. Aggresive players tend to play e4, however d4 can lead to aggressive lines if you know what you are doing.
What are you talking about? 1. d4 is way more positional than tactical.
Depends on how you treat the opening. For example. what white might try against black's main tries:
queens gambit /slav /semislav: play a line with g4 and castling queenside
nimzo-indian: samisch
kings indian: samisch
grunfeld: go for the Nf3/Rb1 line
benoni: f4 and Bb5+
dutch: staunton gambit
Some of these lines are unfashionable, but you will get a tactical game for sure.
The Nf3/Rb1 in Grunfeld isn't always tactical. It depends on how black treats the position.
I mean 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 Nxd5 5.e4 Nxc3 6.bxc3 Bg7 7.Nf3 c5 8.Rb1 0-0 9.Be2 cxd4 10.cxd4 Qa5+ 11.Bd2 Qxa2 is cetainly sharp but what about 9...b6 ? The game is usually positional after that.
Jun 11, 2009
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1. Nf3 - allow Black to be the first to put the pawns out there to be attacked!
The choices are clearly e4 and d4, not Nf3.
richie_and_oprah wrote:
Yes, but the Sicilian is a defense, a response. What is 1.c4 a response to?
You are correct that English seeks to control center, but it is not full-on hyper-modern in that at some point the center must open with a pawn break. If White does not end up occupying the center squares with pawns, we end up in a more KIA pawn structure, and all hope of White advantage is tossed away.
Playing KIDS and NIDS with colors reversed is a worthwhile experiment to see the reasons why some systems work better with one color than the other.
Again, I am not bashing 1.c4. I think it requires a more nuanced understanding of central pawn control to be able to handle it well and get out of the opening with a decent advantages than those skills I tend to posses and presents the player of the White pieces a more narrow band of play if one is to extract said opening advantage.
I agree. That is what I think but I could not explain it so well but you did that for me.
e4 - White wins Black wins Draw
38% 31% 31%
d4 38% 28% 34%
The best first moves for white are 1. c4, 1. d4, 1. g3 and 1. Nf3. They all have very similar success rates for white. 1. e4 is not quite so successful because of the popularity of black's equally most successful opening, the Sicilian Defence.
Holy crap! I never thought I'd see another topic on this matter! :o
e4
kosmeg wrote:
Nytik wrote:
stonesikich wrote:
kosmeg wrote:
Never-ending thread
what does that mean
It means that this topic gets created every two or three days, and the same points go round over and over again, and it gets rather tiresome.
The word that fits here is "exactly"
neverending quotes!
1.e4 is tactical most of the time
1.d4 is posisitonal most of the time
scut_fargus, there's 10% missing from the d4 section of your table
1. f4.
If black doesn't know what he's doing, you can gain an advantage. If he does, you still can't be any worse than equal. While I don't think it's the best opening move (I consider 1.Nf3 to be the best) it's still a decent option.
I just like having flexibility when I open a game.
c4 or d4 d4 is better than e4 it is statistically better
d4.