A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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You’re the one who claimed the Alapin as his own. I would never make such a ridiculous claim as I have respect for the greats who came before us like Semyon Alapin. 

 

All i I did was name a variation of the Alapin after myself that I invented and popularized. There is nothing unreasonable or nonsensical about that. 

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staples13 wrote:

You’re the one who claimed the Alapin as his own. I would never make such a ridiculous claim as I have respect for the greats who came before us like Semyon Alapin. 

 

All i I did was name a variation of the Alapin after myself that I invented and popularized. There is nothing unreasonable or nonsensical about that. 

"All i I did was name a variation of the Alapin after myself that I invented and popularized."

Yep, you are trolling and you don't understand sarcasm

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OK, but I'm sorry, @staples13, here's where I disagree with you. You may have invented and popularized a variation of the alapin, but let's just put this into perspective.

Let's say I play this opening:

Obviously this is a variation of the Queen's Pawn Opening: Agincourt Defense. But because I played this opening one time, I now have a right to call it whatever I want, let's say the, "Queen's Pawn Opening, Kelson McCleffins Defense" (Which is my name, BTW). And now let's say it, dies. Do you still think it's mine to name because one person played it one time?

I sort of agree with your alapin comments, although some of them are blown out of proportion, like this. Just because you played this opening one time means that you now get to call it whatever you like?

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Kwolverine04 wrote:

OK, but I'm sorry, @staples13, here's where I disagree with you. You may have invented and popularized a variation of the alapin, but let's just put this into perspective.

Let's say I play this opening:

Obviously this is a variation of the Queen's Pawn Opening: Agincourt Defense. But because I played this opening one time, I now have a right to call it whatever I want, let's say the, "Queen's Pawn Opening, Kelson McCleffins Defense" (Which is my name, BTW). And now let's say it, dies. Do you still think it's mine to name because one person played it one time?

I sort of agree with your alapin comments, although some of them are blown out of proportion, like this. Just because you played this opening one time means that you now get to call it whatever you like?

Dude staples invented and popularized nothing. The Alapin is more than 130 years old and people has castle queenside thousands of times before he wasn't even born.

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Excellent post KWolverine. 

Yes playing an opening once means nothing. I’m sure there were plenty of people who played 2. c3 before Semyon Alapin, but  he was the first to do it consistently, so he is who the opening is named after.

I’m sure there were people who have played the Staples13 variation of the Alapin a few times before me, but none of them did it with the frequency or success that I’ve used it with. Also I helped to popularize it here on chess.com

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staples13 wrote:

Excellent post KWolverine. 

Yes playing an opening once means nothing. I’m sure there were plenty of people who played 2. c3 before Semyon Alapin, but  he was the first to do it consistently, so he is who the opening is named after.

I’m sure there were people who have played the Staples13 variation of the Alapin a few times before me, but none of them did it with the frequency or success that I’ve used it with. Also I helped to popularize it here on chess.com

Hahahaha this troll wink.png

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OpeningTheorist you are a good poster who is a fellow practitioner of the Alapin, so instead of arguing I think we’d be better served to continue to help the chess.com public  better understand the beautiful Alapin Variation of the Sicilian. 

I’m sure everyone would be grateful if you’d post one of your wins in the Alapin, so we can analyze it and  continue to teach everyone the main ideas of the Alapin

 

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staples13 wrote:
OpeningTheorist wrote:
staples13 wrote:

... I have given dozens of games and reasons why the Alapin busts the Sicilian 

I would like to know the reasons

Well you’re in luck. There are hundreds of posts worth of valuable information.

"In my opinion the Sicilian Defense is busted. It loses by force. ..." - staples (#1, August 27, 2018)

"... Black has 2 main move , 2...d5, ... and 2...Nf6 ..." - UzayAltay (#12, August 27, 2018)

"... I think you should back up your claim with more reasons why 2...d5 or 2...Nf6 might fail for Black. ..." - wiahwib (#32, August 27, 2018)

"... Yes d5 and nf6 do provide much stiffer resistance than any of black's other responses. I, however, believe black is still lost even after these moves. I will post an analysis shortly." - staples13 (#38, August 27, 2018)

"... I’m gonna analyze nf6 ..." - staples13 (#73, August 29, 2018)

"Try your opening against latest Stockfish on your desktop, give SF 1 min per move thinking time. Post your pgn at move 12. Let me know whether black is busted or not!! ..." - drmrboss (#102, September 1, 2018)

"Here's my game with Stockfish. It wasn't able to equalize against my Alapin and its position is probably lost. ... Admittedly I couldn’t figure out how to download stockfish so I had to guess as to what moves stockfish would have played, but I think I probably got it right" - staples13 (#106-7, September 1, 2018)

"... I will continue on to show why 2. e5 and 2. Nf6 loses over the next couple days as promised" - staples13 (#347, ~13 days ago)

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staples13 wrote:

OpeningTheorist you are a good poster who is a fellow practitioner of the Alapin, so instead of arguing I think we’d be better served to continue to help the chess.com public  better understand the beautiful Alapin Variation of the Sicilian. 

I’m sure everyone would be grateful if you’d post one of your wins in the Alapin, so we can analyze it and  continue to teach everyone the main ideas of the Alapin

 

That seems great to me but I'm not premium so I can't search specific openings on my archive :/ 

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Oh. Fair enough. I will pick out a particularly instructive one and post it then if you don’t mind!

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staples13 wrote:

Oh. Fair enough. I will pick out a particularly instructive one and post it then if you don’t mind!

Yeah go ahead happy.png

Tho I never face 2.Nf6 wich is the best move

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I'm sorry to agree with staples this time, Alekhine played the Alekhine defense once, yet they named The defense after him.

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congrandolor wrote:

I'm sorry to agree with staples this time, Alekhine played the Alekhine defense once, yet they named The defense after him.

Once? False. He even won great players like Maroczy, Steiner, Mieses... with it.

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Here is a beautiful game played by OpeningTheorist posted with his permission. The time control is 10 minute no increment. Notice how his rapid development and complete domination of the center won him the game. Black is already way too far behind in development and center control to be moving his queen out on move 2, but black did and he paid the price.

Beautiful game. You fine sir are a worthy practitioner of the Alapin.

 

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congrandolor wrote:

I'm sorry to agree with staples this time, Alekhine played the Alekhine defense once, yet they named The defense after him.

I did not know that about Alekhine. Thanks for sharing!

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staples13 wrote:

Here is a beautiful game played by OpeningTheorist posted with his permission. The time control is 10 minute no increment. Notice how his rapid development and complete domination of the center won him the game. Black is already way too far behind in development and center control to be moving his queen out on move 2, but black did and he paid the price.

Beautiful game. You fine sir are a worthy practitioner of the Alapin.

 

Thank you happy.png I came back to playing chess so I'm not as good as I was.

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staples13 wrote:
congrandolor wrote:

I'm sorry to agree with staples this time, Alekhine played the Alekhine defense once, yet they named The defense after him.

I did not know that about Alekhine. Thanks for sharing!

You didn't know that becouse it's not true, Alekhine played the Alekhine more than 30 times even though Grünfeld was the one to develop the theory on it

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Well keep it up fine sir. Keep destroying people with the Alapin. Soon there will be no one left playing any other variation of the Sicilian

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e4, c5, c3, nf6, e5, nd5, d4, ed, nf3, e6, cd, d6, nc3, nc3, bc, qc7, bd2, nd7=

good for black

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littleLizz wrote:

Ehmmm… There's a reason you don't see much c5 at the highest levels, although I'm not sure if c3 or Nf3 is better. The main reason it's got a bad rap, though, is because of the people with 3-digit ratings who play it because it's "cool" (and get crushed in 10 moves lol).

 

The game posted above, however, does not help to refute the Sicilian. I mean, come on! 2.... Qa5? 3....b5? 4.... b4? What garbage is that? Black played so badly, even a lowly player like me can see his mistakes!

Of course black can always play differently. In which case he merely loses differently