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A Bust to the Sicilian Defense

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HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 13, 2018
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#641
staples13 wrote:
pfren wrote:

 

There is nothing like a "deep analysis" anywhere in this thread. Just naive & shallow speculative lines.

Nonsense. Post #53 alone is probably the single most informative and analytical post in any thread here on chess.com. 

 

Not it to mention the dozens of other games that have been analyzed in-depth throughout this thread.

Yup. 

kindaspongey
kindaspongey
Nov 13, 2018
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#642
kindaspongey wrote (~4 days ago):
"I showed forced winning lines in post 55, which is a complete and thorough analysis of why 2. d5 loses immediately" - staples13 (~14 hours ago)
staples13 wrote (August 29, 2018):

… After 2. d5 the game normally proceeds 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4. ... If the natural Nc6 is played white simply takes on c5 and black ... can sacrifice the pawn and not allow white to castle with Qxd1. ... In the Qxd1 line there is insufficient compensation for the loss of the pawn, …

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http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1606612

kindaspongey
kindaspongey
Nov 13, 2018
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#643
kindaspongey wrote (~4 days ago):
"I showed forced winning lines in post 55, which is a complete and thorough analysis of why 2. d5 loses immediately" - staples13 (~1 hour ago)
staples13 wrote (August 29, 2018):

… Here's another 3 minute no increment blitz game showing black cracking under the constant pressure from white's pieces.

Clearly black can not take on d4. …

...

"Are we going to see staples13 identify a winning improvement for White?" - kindaspongey (~14 days ago)


"here you go Kindaspongey 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nc6 5. Nf3 cxd4 6. cxd4 e5 7. Nc3 Bb4 8. Bd2 Bxc3 9. Bxc3 e4 10. Ne5 Nxe5 11. dxe5 Ne7 12. Qe2 O-O 13. Rd1 Qc6 14. Rd6! this was the move white missed. 14... Qc7 15. Qxe4 ..." - staples13 (~4 days ago)

"Why would black play 14...Qc7? What if 14...Qa4 15. b3 Qa3 instead?" - littlesoldier123 (~4 days ago)

littlesoldier123
littlesoldier123
Nov 13, 2018
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#644
littlesoldier123 wrote:
staples13 wrote:
SaltyAsHell wrote:

Okay let's actually bust this kids arguments. Show us as a wining line, there must be plenty as it's forced right?

I showed  forced winning lines in post 55, which is a complete and thorough analysis of why 2. d5 loses immediately

Your "thorough" analysis did not include the move order 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 e6, which is suggested by Stockfish.

 

staples13
staples13
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Nov 13, 2018
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#645

13. Qd3!

staples13
staples13
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Nov 13, 2018
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#646

We actually already showed why that move loses RighteousWarrior

staples13
staples13
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Nov 13, 2018
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#647

Black is completely lost after 1. e4 c5 2. c3 Qa4, and not even Pfren would claim otherwise

littlesoldier123
littlesoldier123
Nov 13, 2018
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#648

1. e4 c5 2. c3 Nf6 3. e5 Nd5 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nf3 d6 6. cxd4 Nc6 7. Bc4 dxe5 8. Bxd5 Qxd5 9. Nc3 Qd6 10. d5 Nd4 11. Nxd4 exd4 12. Qxd4 e5 13. Qd3 Bd7

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#649
Chessopera wrote:

Black is always fine in Sicilian defence specially against anti-Sicilians.

Nope. Have you ever faced the Grand Prix?

congrandolor
congrandolor
Nov 14, 2018
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#650
Chessopera wrote:

Black is always fine in Sicilian defence specially against anti-Sicilians.

Black is always fine...except when it isn't!

staples13
staples13
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Nov 14, 2018
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#651

Chessopera has never once won a game on chess.com against the Alapin

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#652
Chessopera wrote:

Grand Prix is one of the easiest anti-sicilians to deal with, that is why it is so rare at high levels.

Although theoretical equality may have been claimed, it is very elusive.

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#653

What’s ur rating??? You think 1700 USCF is dat easy? Hmmm... Let’s play to see who is better.

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#654

Let’s play. I’ll play the Grand Prix vs you daily.

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#655

Wrong. There are good coaches that are “only” 1600.

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 14, 2018
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#656

I had to work to get to classB, 

1. My IQ is lower than you think

2. I have been playing for 7 years actually.

Former_mod_david
Former_mod_david
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Nov 15, 2018
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#657

@HolographWars @kindaspongey You guys have been trolled by the same person under 2 different accounts now - we're deleting his accounts as soon as we identify him, but it renders your responses to him hard to understand, so I've been deleting those as well, but it still makes the thread hard to follow.

Please check the creation date of any accounts before you start replying to them - if it's less than a day old, try to hold off replying for at least another 24 hours, or let me know via PM.

Thanks,

David, moderator

kindaspongey
kindaspongey
Nov 15, 2018
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#658

I think #708 is a reaction to something that has disappeared. (#709 also, although that one somewhat stands on its own as a slightly contextless comment.)

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 15, 2018
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#659

Ok.

HolographWars
HolographWars
Nov 15, 2018
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#660

So finally, the debate may continue...