A general Study on the King's Gambit

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tigergutt

Im a big fan of kings gambit and only stopped because the overwhelming amount of 3...d5 which made me go tired of it and not getting the exitement i was looking for. If 3...d5 would get less popular i would come back

Ben_Dubuque

Yeah I find that happens a lot I don't like facing it, but can deal with it as I find other third moves more often, actually I find quite a few get tried.

Ben_Dubuque

Both sides need to know theory however black only needs to know a hand full of variations as he generally chooses which defense he wants. And often both players need to be very good tacticaly

TheGhostofTal

Am I allowed to post a friends sacrifices? Based on a game by GM Polgar, you can learn how the theory of attack may progress from a loosing position. Polgar in her youth was less accurate than what she is today resulting in a stale mate in her statistical position in female ranking. She no longer gets better because in my mind, she has lost the initiative which aggressive players possess. 

 

In my article, ''Polgars Risky Business,'' I explain how some gmabits made by special chess players are not always sound according to computers, but skill can destroy solid chess positions. Believe it or not, but Judit in her youth when known as a great player, was known as great for being aggressive over solidity.... Tal on the other hand, probably still as creative in equality to Polgars youthful talents, was often criticized because many of his gambits relied on his opponenet making the wrong choice of move. Keep in mind however, Polgar herself has admitted that chess is at least 50% psychology. If you can see an opponent tactically making choices, then you have a psyechological advantage. 

 

 

http://chesstempo.com/chess-forum/chess_openings_discussion/polgars_risky_buisiness-t5251.0.html

SocialPanda

In Tal´s "Life & Games", he shows many games when he is totally lost but wins anyway.

TheGhostofTal

Yes, due to tactical prowess. 

SocialPanda

And he recognizes it openly, it´s nice to read such honest assesments.

Ben_Dubuque

Yes you can post that. Very interesting

Bobbarooski

Jetfighter, thanks for such a thorough post on the King's Gambit.  I love playing the KG as it always leads to a wild ride.  I used to fear it because of the tactical fireworks, but now it is my "go to" opening when I'm looking for an exciting game.

Ben_Dubuque

You are more than welcome, finally a place that has mature discussion on this opening

batgirl
Bobbarooski wrote:

 I used to fear it because of the tactical fireworks, but now it is my "go to" opening when I'm looking for an exciting game.

I think that a most pertinent point.  Chess has as many facets as it has practioners and each person has his or her own reasons for playing.  Sometimes even those reasons change by circumstance.   The King's Gambit offers the classical fight of time vs material if one wants it.  The excitement depends, in part, of the daring and tactical insight of the contestants, but it's there to grab, like a ring on a carousel.

Ben_Dubuque

Always seize the initiative. Press for all you can get and other in lies the key to success in chess and life

TheGhostofTal
socialista wrote:

And he recognizes it openly, it´s nice to read such honest assesments.

Exactly. 

 

Tal played with a style which many consider... aggressive.

 

What people don't understand, he actually swapped his intellectual ability to offer a situation which may fluctuate between an aggressive to positional play. His tactics where always on full mode. He would, bravely in my opinion, allow a loosing position to become a diamond in the ruff. 

Ben_Dubuque

Here is a tournoment that I feel would belong here

 

http://www.chess.com/tournament/kings-gambit-tournoment

December_TwentyNine
TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:

Thanks =)

People on the white side usually know the gambit and theory better so that might account for the 40% win rate.  Though I can see why someone would want to avoid the Berlin or Petroff though 3.Nc3 can transpose into a four knights (or 3...Bb4, which can lead to interesting play)  The two knights is kind of dull and the Fried Liver mixes things up way too early for my tastes as white still has many pieces left undeveloped.  Now I remember why I usually go with 1.d4 as it can be hard to establish some imbalances in many 1.e4,e5 lines if black doesn't allow. 

I remember that I personally used to play the gambit because of its historical value.  Here's one of my old games with it:

 



Nicely Done, sir!

AKJett

Last time I checked the KG everybody played 2...d5 or 3...d5

Ben_Dubuque
Optimissed wrote:

No, the King's Gambit is about level, which is the reason white tends not to bother.

you're statement about this and the comment about the opening being more positional is only in certain lines, and Roeczak, your assumption is only true about very high level players, and even then It isn't completely true, as in Nakamura vs (another Super GM) where the Muzio Gambit is played.

congofx

As a noob, I love the kings gambit. Now I'm playing chess rather than StarCraft I've changed my motto from "when in doubt, get your banelings out" to "It's never a draw, if move 2 is f4"

Ben_Dubuque

Love it, but there are plenty of drawing chances in the kg

December_TwentyNine
Optimissed wrote:

White must be crazy to play the King's gambit to avoid a Petrov. No-one heard of the Cochrane Gambit? Or just the standard lines of the Petrov give a great position for white with subtle pressure.

I heard my 1800 rated friend mention that before, but don't know the lines to it.