A new ama about the jobava london

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rychessmaster1
DaBabysSideTing wrote:

What makes the Jobava London better than the Veresov attack?

The bishop on f4 is way more active than the bishop on g5 and it also doesn’t allow a French transposition by force 

rychessmaster1
K-O-24-B-E wrote:

What is ur win rate with the london and do you recommend playing it in otb tournaments 

The regular London can burn for eternity 

rychessmaster1
 
little_guinea_pig wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Can Black play "anti-Jobava" systems like the 3...Qb6 anti-London?

Not really any anti jobavas no

i don't mean ones that will rek a smart jobava player i mean one that would work against someone who just spams the first 6-7 moves (like most london players do)

I mean the “anti jobava” is this

but I’m not phased by it at all 

rychessmaster1
K-O-24-B-E wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
K-O-24-B-E wrote:

What is ur win rate with the london and do you recommend playing it in otb tournaments 

The regular London can burn for eternity 

What? So I should play normal london?

NO

rychessmaster1
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
PrisonOfXanadu wrote:

Jobava London > London > Accelerated London

This man speaking facts 

Idk I'm feeling like Jobava > Accelerated London > London

Fair 

DasBurner
rychessmaster1 wrote:
 
little_guinea_pig wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Can Black play "anti-Jobava" systems like the 3...Qb6 anti-London?

Not really any anti jobavas no

i don't mean ones that will rek a smart jobava player i mean one that would work against someone who just spams the first 6-7 moves (like most london players do)

I mean the “anti jobava” is this

but I’m not phased by it at all 

the knight on a6 doesn't look too great. this is the Anti system?

JackRoach

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

rychessmaster1
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
 
little_guinea_pig wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
little_guinea_pig wrote:

Can Black play "anti-Jobava" systems like the 3...Qb6 anti-London?

Not really any anti jobavas no

i don't mean ones that will rek a smart jobava player i mean one that would work against someone who just spams the first 6-7 moves (like most london players do)

I mean the “anti jobava” is this

but I’m not phased by it at all 

the knight on a6 doesn't look too great. this is the Anti system?

This is what most people decide on yes

But whites fine and I have some stuff that gives black a bad time 

DasBurner
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

I think the entire point of the Jobava at its core is to play nb5 fried liver style

rychessmaster1
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

The London is slow trying to play Nf3 Nd2 c3 Be2 O-O

Jobava you can immediately go for things like Nb5 or Nf3-e5 or f3-g4-h4 if the bishop comes to f5

 

JackRoach
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

I think the entire point of the Jobava at its core is to play nb5 fried liver style

But, in the example he posted the knight just went to the edge to defend.

rychessmaster1
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

I think the entire point of the Jobava at its core is to play nb5 fried liver style

Nb5 is only the idea sometimes but the threat also gets some players to play a6 or c6 on move 3, a slow move 

JackRoach
rychessmaster1 wrote:
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

The London is slow trying to play Nf3 Nd2 c3 Be2 O-O

Jobava you can immediately go for things like Nb5 or Nf3-e5 or f3-g4-h4 if the bishop comes to f5

 

I can't visualize that. Can you post an example?

rychessmaster1
JackRoach wrote:
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

I think the entire point of the Jobava at its core is to play nb5 fried liver style

But, in the example he posted the knight just went to the edge to defend.

But that’s not any fun 

rychessmaster1
JackRoach wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

The London is slow trying to play Nf3 Nd2 c3 Be2 O-O

Jobava you can immediately go for things like Nb5 or Nf3-e5 or f3-g4-h4 if the bishop comes to f5

 

I can't visualize that. Can you post an example?

How about one of each

 

DasBurner
rychessmaster1 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
JackRoach wrote:

Why is it ok to just refuse to move the c-pawn in the beginning?

Also, can you post how it is an attacking opening and not just London with the horse on a different square?

I think the entire point of the Jobava at its core is to play nb5 fried liver style

Nb5 is only the idea sometimes but the threat also gets some players to play a6 or c6 on move 3, a slow move 

personally I dont have a problem playing c6 in the Jobava because I can get semi slav-ish ideas in it. I think

rychessmaster1

c6 in the jobava pretty much forces black to go for the Bf5 lines if he wants to be active, walking right into the f3-g4

JackRoach

So you just go for a quick attack is what you're saying?

rychessmaster1

Pretty much  

Black has to be really passive if he wants to avoid a quick attack from white 

DasBurner
rychessmaster1 wrote:

c6 in the jobava pretty much forces black to go for the Bf5 lines if he wants to be active, walking right into the f3-g4

given that you're playing a lot of pawn pushes on the queenside, is white going to be castling queenside most of the time?