aggressive London system

Go ahead and post any games you want from me, maybe that way you get banned I instead will let the mods and admins find it out becouse I'm clearly more mature.

All right. You asked for it. 

And for the record My rating fluctuated massively in the past becuase I used to frequently tank games. Everyone on chess.coms forums knows this. This is not a secret, and you know it too. That is not against the rules.

I have played 16000 games and have never once used an engine. You and everyone else are welcome to post any of my 16000 games as my play could never possibly be confused with that of an engine. This is why you won’t do it. 

You can pretend like you are trying to take the high road but are the one who started this fight. You are the one who insulted me. You are the one who used an engine. I was classy enough to let it go, but you have decided to continue this. I will post the links tomorrow when I have access to my compute

In the meantime my sincere apologies OP for Allusernamestaken derailing this thread into the childish behavior he turned it into. 

I will post the links for all to see even though most have already seen them and would already know that he is an engine using cheat, but after that I hope he finally leaves like he has promised to do 3 times now and we can get back to the topic of the London System

To be honest I don't think that your graph looks weird becouse you tanked...

I didn't start any fight and I never insulted you lol. As I'm proving that you lie, just tell me the thread and I will post the link so you don't get banned for that. I deleted the thread when I showed that you cheat but I deleted that becouse I had some comments saying that making a public accusation like that would lead to me getting banned... that's why I'm not showing your games and links.

You did start the fight you just randomly attacked me for no reason out of the blue. I hadn’t even said anything to you.

Post the staples13 thread as well as the one where you brag about gaining 400 elo points in less than three weeks.

There are several other threads  that are extremely hard to find because you deleted your posts to try and hide so they no longer show up in your activity. You know which threads these are so please post them as well. 

Also what you just said is a complete lie. You didn’t delete your original posts because you had publically shamed an opponent and didn’t want to get in trouble for it you did it to cover up your engine use. You know how I and everyone else know that? Because in the one thread you didn’t even publically shame anyone. You merely bragged about your rati skyrocketing and then everyone pointed out thats because you used stockfish so you deleted your post and went into hiding. 

It's taken a turn for the worst in that sense, but on the other hand the entertainment value is still there...

Okay, now instead of saying bullshit like you did, I'm gonna post the link of the threat where you say I brag (I don't just watch it):

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-fast-did-you-progressed-how-to-progress-faster

I don't have the other thread where I exposed you becouse I already told you that I deleted it and I also told you why. No one is saying that I'm using an engine becouse I'm not.

So, there you go! You were lying again.

Now I gently ask you to stop this chat becouse is leading to nowhere.

Deal?

My response to that would be that no one transposed into anything. The position is almost exclusively reached through this move order (and we wouldn't say that anything "transposes" just because one side plays a certain way, transposition of course is reaching the exact same position through a different move order). For that reason this is still "London theory," we could say...

But what matters is that you're likely to face that line if you play that way, and you'd probably not like that. Most players who play 1. d4 and 2. Bf4 at a reasonably high level will play this c4 if you use that move order and of course it doesn't lose, but clearly it's not desirable. As for your comment about Bg4 in the Slav...it all depends on the exact position. Exact move orders and positions are everything. 

But I think the second half of my post shows a system in which you are able to get in Bf5 and have reasonable chances of a complicated position. Even if in those positions white succeeds in Nh4 and gaining the bishop pair you're not much worse at all, and that's far from forced anyway. 

I'd say the QGD's got nothing to do with it. The QGD occurs when black has already played e6 and has no Bf5 option.

If you're getting that position starting from a Slav move order, it probably means your opponents are helping you out considerably. 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bf4 (for example) dxc4 is strong, as white isn't able to play e4, as he would like to be able to play if he's going to gambit the pawn, and even 5. a4 b5 (the computer finds the outlandish e5!? is also playable) is quite good for black as there's no knight on c3. I believe those positions can't be better for white, and my computer gives some advantage for black, since white has much less compensation than usual for having given up c4. 

What I'm saying is that the lines I showed can be considered London theory because it's very difficult to reach them through a Slav move order unless you get away with Bf4 in a position in which you shouldn't (with any advantage anyway). So it could be that you've reached the exact position from a Slav, but you shouldn't have

Absolutely, but from white's perspective, you shouldn't try to achieve it in a Slav (i.e. you shouldn't be playing Bf4 after c4 c6), and for that reason the only games these positions are reached at very high level are games that started with d4 Bf4 and c4 much later.

No, to me you haven't made yourself clearer at all (and I doubt Mr. Coleman will say otherwise) and the reason for this is that you're not expressing yourself concretely. If you show lines that give us an idea what you're talking about, instead of talking so generally (particularly this "there are some combinations that fail before ...e6 has been played but win after it's been played...") then perhaps we'd have a shot.

I also don't know why exactly you added "if black doesn't understand Slavs, he certainly shouldn't be playing Bf5 and c6." I mentioned the line because you said yourself that you thought that a way to equalize would be to develop the bishop outside the pawn chain...and my intention was just to show that the move order is everything, and that just saying "developing your bishop outside the pawn chain" is the way to equalize in the London doesn't mean anything without delving into specifics.

But I also get the feeling that whatever you've convinced yourself of, regardless of whether it's right or not right or whether I will agree with it or not, is not the sort of thing that I'd be able to get you to budge on if I did disagree with it, so it's up to you if you want to try to help me out

Hahahahahahahah. Of all the blatant lies you have posted this is my favorite. Way to just post a random thread that has nothing to do with anything instead of posting the two specific threads that I told you to.

The threads I want ou  to post is entitled I won 400 elo points in 20 days.  Stop hiding stop lying and post it. Also post the Staples13 thread too.

You knew exactly which threads I was talking about and you instead tried this ridiculous attempt to get out of it. Post the threads like you promised you would. 

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I was wondering where the drama had gone! Thanks, guys. I was almost worried there for a moment...

But yeah for dpnormans sake I’ll let it go if you will. All you have to do is post the links to your Staples13 thread and your thread entitled “ I won 400 Elo points in 20 days” like you promised

It’s funny because in your Staples13 thread  you didn’t accuse me of engine use instead you insulted my play, said that I played terrible and called me a moron. Now you’ve changed your argument 180 degrees. 

Anyhow In both threads, as you know, you bragged about your victories/rating gains, and then when people shot down your arguments and called out your cheating  by posting all the games where you were an engine using cheat you deleted your OP and went into hiding. 

You can post the links yourself like you promised or you can continue to be dishonest and instead post more random threads that have nothing to do with anything and then beg me to drop the subject. In which case I will post the links myself tomorrow 

For my sake you want to stop?! This is great! 

Don’t worry it’s about to end. I’m done as soon as the link is posted. 

Here it is. Notice how everything Allusernamestaken said was a complete lie. Notice how he posted a thread bragging about his massive rating increase then when posters noticed he is an engine using cheat and posted games proving  it he deleted his original post to try and hide and cover up his engine use. 

I have now proven that undeniably that everything I said was true and that Allusernamestaken is a liar and an engine user. Good day fine sirs my job here is done. 

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/general-i-won-400-elo-points-in-20-days

130 posts. About 30 with good info, about 100 posts with people yelling insults.