albin counter gambit

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At my local chess club, I normally play this.There is one guy who always plays this way against me when I use this gambit. What should I do? ( as black)

 

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WIN A PAWN 6...Bxc3+ 7.bxc  Qxc3+

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i think you should trade off your queen because of the foll. reasons::

1. the opponents king will get in the open and his castle will be disturbed.

2.it really doesn't matter whether you take that pawn or not because doubled pawn is a weakness as it will distract your opponent's attention towards it's safety while you carry on with your development and attack.

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zxb995511 wrote:

WIN A PAWN 6...Bxc3+ 7.bxc  Qxc3+


there's no reason in winning a pawn as he will be making his queen run and his opponent will carry on with the development and his open rook file.

i consider this...

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Ok so say if I can't his queen what kind of attack do I start? and where?

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Thanks prawn this helps alot

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The commonest way of dealing with this line is:


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Just win the pawn

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dsarkar this helps but its not what I posted

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FirebrandX wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

7. f4 seems shortsighted by white. Better would be Nf3 and if Bg4, kick it with h3. If black plays Bxf3, gxf3 Nxe5, he gives white the bishop pair and better control of the center.

I think black should instead be focused on castling queenside asap as in: 4...Qxd1 5. Kxd1 Nc6 6. Nf3 Bf5 (controlling the c2 escape square that white would love to plant the king on) 7. Nc3 0-0-0+ 8. Bd2 and now Bc5, which forces white to have to play another tempo-losing move of 9. Ke1. Now 9...Nge7 and you have to like black's compensation for the pawn.


Yes, I understand that one line cannot be considered a full analysis... who has the time for that?

My line demonstrates the "sort of compensation" Black obtains if White goes "balls-out" to cling onto the extra pawn in a somewhat naive fashion, nothing more. I also think that any White player who plays 3 cxd5 and not 3 dxe5 might very well play f4.

Whatever the detail, I think we have both shown that Black gets adequate compensation for a not very good pawn in the form of active piece play and a vulnerable White King.

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 timeless_thoughts,

sorry! I misunderstood. You want to know what to do if white plays 3. cxd5 in 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e5 3. cxd5 Qxd5 4. dxe5Qxe5 5. Nc3 Bb4 6. Nf3

sorry! in that case, the accepted better line of play:

 

 


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Thanks I kind of like both, but I'm going to look into the rapid delevelment one :) Thanks alot

Timeless

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timeless_thoughts wrote:

Thanks I kind of like both, but I'm going to look into the rapid delevelment one :) Thanks alot

Timeless


I think between the three of us, you've had a fair demonstration of why 3. cxd5 is inferior to 3. exd5. I must admit that whilst I've played over twenty Albin Counter Gambits on this site (playing both sides) I have yet to face 3. cxd5 so it was a good question and has helped expand my knowledge too. Please be sure to post game extracts from when you next meet your Albin nemesis. Good luck and "Up the Albin!"

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you can get a free pawn and maybe a rook