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darkunorthodox88

leave it to rapport to play such novelty 1.a3!? h6!?! come at me bro!

poucin

Well, it just transposed to a slav exchange where a3/h6 inserted.

I would think it favours white but white was in drawish mode (8.Qb3! and not Be2) and even lost a totally drawish queens endgame.

This just shows that queen's endgame can be very difficult and are not automatic draws.

I remember some blitz games where I tried a3/h3.

For example : 1.a3 a6 2.h3 h6 and i was stuck! surprise.png

But once again to compare : 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.a3 a6?! 5.d4! exd4 6.Nxd4 and black doesn't have Bb4 so it is an improved 4 knights with d4 for white.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
poucin wrote:

But don't be mistaken.

In my opinion, 1.a3 is very theorical on the contrary!

White will try to obtain theorical position with a3 useful.

Up to black to find where a3 is not so useful.

That's why for instance 1.a3 g6 is often given, because a3 pretty useless here : not completely but less than 1.a3 e5 and 1.a3 d5.

 

Another good line is 1. a3 a5!

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
Dsmith42 wrote:

@poucin - I've seen 1. a3 g6 played against me a few times when I've opened with Anderssen (against opponents rated in the 1600-2000 range), to which I usually reply 2. Nf3 (setting up for 3. d4), or else I play 1. d4 immediately.  In either case, I've gotten good results against it.

 

To reply with 1. ..g6 seems both passive and committal, so the fianchetto is blunted on the long diagonal by a white pawn on d4 or (if white doesn't set up for d4) by a black pawn on e5.  If the game proceeds to a King's Indian Attack with the colors reversed (as seems likely), then 1. a3 is a useful tempo for a queenside pawn storm, which is common to such games (at least in my own experience).

 

I think it's a mistake, at least strategically, to try and make the a3 push useless - it is what it is, and it should be taken as-is.  Why would you revert to an opening which with white is otherwise regarded as inferior just to avoid letting a3 be useful?  For instance, you could continue on 1. a3 g6 with 2. e4 f5 3. exf5 gxf5 4. Qh5# (extreme example, but you get the point), and 1. a3 proves useless, but black still loses.  I think it is better to alter an otherwise sound plan to compensate for 1. a3 than to opt for a more dubious one just to prove that white wasted a tempo.

That's why 1...a5

Objectively, though, I think 1...e5 is strongest here.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
poucin wrote:

U tell d4 block Bg7 but then u mean KID, Gruenfeld, and all these defence are bad? Non sense.

Games against 1600-2000 rated players don't mean anything anyway.

Personnally i lost a game as black with 1.a3 g6 2.h4 against a strong GM, but i had a good position, the opening was not the problem.

 

Almost certainly 2...h5 should be best here.

If white plays h4-h5, he should not have problems.

Lyudmil_Tsvetkov
darkunorthodox88 wrote:
mickynj wrote:

I think the Grandmaster community has eloquently expressed its collective judgement on Anderssen's Opening by almost never using it over the last century.

 

moves like 1.e3 1.d3 and 1.c3 and perhaps 1.a3 are so unpopular because they have relatively little independent value, not because they are bad. they are probably no better or worse than the other first moves barring the top 4 or 5.

Actually, 1. d3! is quite good and MUCH better than 1. e3 and 1. c3

You could easily get a powerful KIA from a range of diverse openings.