no one has any advice for improvements, lines that are annoying to face as vienna players or ANYTHING to add? it's like the vienna is a top secret game no one is allowed to discuss from black's perspective
anti-Vienna repertoire for a gambiteer?
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Well, since you mentioned 'reversed kings gambit', you could try this, as long as you don't care what the engine thinks.
Aug 9, 2023
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I would just play e4 e5 Nc3 Nf6. If they f4, go for main line. Vienna players actually met main line only 3 times in their entire life, so they will most likely forget the theory. Against Bc4, go frankenstein-drakula(Nxe4). If three knights game, i honestly dont know. Maybe Bb4
I'm trying to put together a "reversed king's gambit" repertoire (rousseau gambit, jaenisch/schliemann etc.) and am having a really hard time finding discussions about the pros and cons of black's replies. I'm looking for maximum development/mobility and double edged tactics filled type positions and despise quiet positional setups. mostly using performance stats, this is my best guess for a repertoire
I already dismissed one popular line I can't remember the name of for being too quiet and positional... the opposite of what I'm looking for
1.e4 e5 2.Nc3
2…Bc5 Anderrsen Defense offbeat but playable
2…Nf6 Falkbeer Variation
_____3.Nf3 Russian 3 Knights
__________3…Nc6 Max Lange - positional (sounds NOPE!!!)
__________3…Nf6 Falkbeer
_____3.f4 d5 Vienna Gambit
__________4.fxe5 Nxe4
_______________5.Qf3 Nc6 6.Nxe4 Nd4
_______________5.Nf3 Be7 6.d4 0-0 7.Bd3 f5 8.exf6 Bxf6
_______________5.d3
____________________5…Nxc3 6.bxc3 d4!
____________________5…Qh4+ 6.g3 Nxg3 7.Nf3 Qh5 8.Nxd5
_______________5.Nxe4? dxe4
__________4.exd5?
_____3.Bc4 Stanley Variation
__________3…Bb4 4.f4 Nxe4 5.Qh5 0-0 is roughly = but WILD
__________3…Nxe4 Frankenstein Dracula Variation
_______________4.Nxe4 d5
_______________4.Qh5! Nd6 or black gets mated by Qxf7#
____________________5.Qxe5+
____________________5.Bb3 Nc6 6.Nb5 g6 7.Qf3 f5 8.Qd5 Qe7 9.Nxc7+ Kd8 10.Rxa8 b6 CHAOTIC
_______________4. Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Nxe4 d5!
____________________6.Qf3+ Kg8 7.Ng5!? Qd7! --++
____________________6.Qh5+ g6 7.Qxe5? Bh6! wins for Black
_____3.Bg3
_____3.g3 Mieses Variation
_______________3…Nxc3
_______________3…Bc5
_______________3…Nc6 transposes
_____3.a3 Mengarini Variation
_____3.d3 King’s Indian Attack
if anyone has any suggestions for improvements (as in development and/or attacking) or can state the differences between 2 candidate lines are appreciated. getting rid of the scandinavian is much harder than hoped for with all these new move orders with little info online on the pros and cons of each reply and with sooo many branches to learn. just trying to study the rousseau gambit with its tricky move orders convinced me to stop trying to drop the scandinavian.
any help getting into the kinds of games I want to play like the englund gambit > hartlaub/charlick is doing for me dropping the ANNOYING "slav-wall" against 1.d4, but only 1 or two games a day at a time.