I play Chigorin regularly
Any Chigorin Defense fans out there?
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Basically if white play correctly, black will get a tough position to defend. Just play d4 d5 c4 Nc6 and if Nf3 you play Bg4 or if Nc3 e6. I used to play e5 instead of e6 but I don't think it's as solid
The book is either e5 or e6. I have tried both and I prefer e6.
Yes that's why on 5... You take on f3 and after gf Ne5
except that after 5.f4 the most popular way to play now is 5...Ng4 6.e4 e5 with ideas of ..Bc5 to target f2, there are various 7th moves for white
the chigorin is pretty solid and very exciting and aggressive at the same time, it should long have been repopularized. there's the excellent, instructional book by Bronznik and Morozevich's personal view in 'The Chigorin Defence according to Alexander Morozevich'. I'm picking up the first one and getting ready to play the chigorin!
Mar 5, 2012
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I play it as well ... it's amazing how many (low rated) players will lose the d4 pawn as in the sequence above ... and if they don't, it's much more of an active "fun" game as it would be in the cramped QGD.
All these so called refutations of what isn't even the main line of the refutation and none of them are even the strongest variation for white, which still isn't even considered a refutation by any means. I suggest picking up a book and looking at a database which would be much better then these out dated lines we see here. Also the strongest line for white is widely considered the nf3 variation.
I will totally agree with CaptainJackShepard , Conzipe presents a "refutation" where black really helps white to refute Chigorin.Refutations like these and videos like these on youtube only make me laugh.Some self called "experts" think they have discovered the secret of refuting anything they don't like.
I have never played Chigorin and never liked it but there is nothing wrong with it and you have to be very naive to believe there is a refutation.What possibly can be wrong with 2...Nc6?.And what is the refutation Morozevitch doesn't know about it?
True , the amount of theory is not that important.If you have to do with a lot easy to remember lines because they simply have reasonable moves , then it's not a problem.
I'm a fan, and yes, I am annoyed by Nc3!! I don't know if it's a must win, but usually black has a lot of aggressive moves. He usually trades bishops for knights and allows white to have a pawn center if he can attack!
I am not an expert but why 3...e6 is a problem?
It's not really a problem as it s pretty weak compared to other choices
I meant why is a problem for black?Position seems fine to me
Anyone out there use the Chigorin Defense regularly? I had always sort of dismissed it because the opening books tend to frown on it, but It seems to have a potential for allowing very active piece play. Also, has anyone read Morozevich's book on it? Is it something that a lower level player can absorb or is more for advanced players?