Any good weapons against the french?

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yvesrything_funky

Well I don't know why nobody has suggested it but this is by far the most practical choice against the French

The Milner Barry Gambit, you do need to put annoying pressure during the whole game and ask Black tough practical questions.

I prefer Nc3 for quirky play tho.

yvesrything_funky

And you fo need to know what you're doing here else you could lose your e5 pawn and then Black's two central pawns could be scary.

pleewo

Bc5 b4 fr

swntax

Guns will work. Try missiles too.

mirroredragon
swntax wrote:

Guns will work. Try missiles too.

of course the englishman knows best

blueemu
PotatoesAndChess wrote:

What I have been playing is a king's indian attack and making it a structure like a grand prix attack in the sicilian

3. Nc3 is a lemon. Black should answer dxe4 (although Nf6 and Bb4 are both good alternatives).

You should play 3. Nd2 instead, preventing an exchange of Queens.

blueemu
PotatoesAndChess wrote:
8thMarch2023 wrote:
mirroredragon wrote:
Irongine wrote:

I prefer the wing gambit idea
Sacrifice your b and sometimes your a pawn for a strong pawn structure.
Something that looks like this

this actually looks interesting

i might play this sometime

Black approves /s

what is /s

/s = sarcasm.

Ethan_Brollier
blueemu wrote:
PotatoesAndChess wrote:

What I have been playing is a king's indian attack and making it a structure like a grand prix attack in the sicilian

3. Nc3 is a lemon. Black should answer dxe4 (although Nf6 and Bb4 are both good alternatives).

You should play 3. Nd2 instead, preventing an exchange of Queens.

If yo you don’t mind me asking? What? The Rubinstein is the worst of the three for Black (although still playable) but I can’t think of a single line in the French where there’s an exchange of Queens, Rubinstein or otherwise. And besides, the Rubinstein still works against 3. Nd2

autumncurtis

I hear you can win them over with croissants 😜

blueemu
Ethan_Brollier wrote:
blueemu wrote:
PotatoesAndChess wrote:

What I have been playing is a king's indian attack and making it a structure like a grand prix attack in the sicilian

3. Nc3 is a lemon. Black should answer dxe4 (although Nf6 and Bb4 are both good alternatives).

You should play 3. Nd2 instead, preventing an exchange of Queens.

If yo you don’t mind me asking? What? The Rubinstein is the worst of the three for Black (although still playable) but I can’t think of a single line in the French where there’s an exchange of Queens, Rubinstein or otherwise. And besides, the Rubinstein still works against 3. Nd2

What Rubinstein?

He's talking about 2. d3, not 2. d4.

"What I have been playing is a king's indian attack"...

Ethan_Brollier
blueemu wrote:
Ethan_Brollier wrote:
blueemu wrote:
PotatoesAndChess wrote:

What I have been playing is a king's indian attack and making it a structure like a grand prix attack in the sicilian

3. Nc3 is a lemon. Black should answer dxe4 (although Nf6 and Bb4 are both good alternatives).

You should play 3. Nd2 instead, preventing an exchange of Queens.

If yo you don’t mind me asking? What? The Rubinstein is the worst of the three for Black (although still playable) but I can’t think of a single line in the French where there’s an exchange of Queens, Rubinstein or otherwise. And besides, the Rubinstein still works against 3. Nd2

What Rubinstein?

He's talking about 2. d3, not 2. d4.

"What I have been playing is a king's indian attack"...

Ahhh, my apologies. I somehow missed that

mirroredragon
8thMarch2023 wrote:

There's no point in memorizing openings or naming the lines.

You'll play a better game over the board with the application of good sense.

and if you can't do that yet, it's a more worthy work with better return of investment than memorization can ever be

openings are important after a certain point

RivertonKnight

So none of the top players don't know or use any theory? WOW!!

TheSampson
8thMarch2023 wrote:
mirroredragon wrote:
8thMarch2023 wrote:

There's no point in memorizing openings or naming the lines.

You'll play a better game over the board with the application of good sense.

and if you can't do that yet, it's a more worthy work with better return of investment than memorization can ever be

openings are important after a certain point

Potentially as a crutch if someone can't decide good moves.

Otherwise they shouldn't be.

Ah yes, the system in which you decide your middlegame plan and setup isn’t important and you can just play a four knights against everything.

mirroredragon
8thMarch2023 wrote:
mirroredragon wrote:
8thMarch2023 wrote:

There's no point in memorizing openings or naming the lines.

You'll play a better game over the board with the application of good sense.

and if you can't do that yet, it's a more worthy work with better return of investment than memorization can ever be

openings are important after a certain point

Potentially as a crutch if someone can't decide good moves.

Otherwise they shouldn't be.

opening prep matters a lot. especially so at higher levels and OTB chess. It's not a crutch if you're forced to learn some to even compete.

blueemu

I'm sure everybody has seen my "opening prep" game, in which my prepared novelty came on move 28? It won me an important point in a country vs country rated match.

I would say that my opening prep mattered.

c_h_e_s_s_m_a_p_s

Bad food scares them

blueemu
roidelarue wrote:

Bad food scares them

Soggy baguettes.

general-error

machine guns work well against the french

but they work pretty well against everybody

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pleewo

Yes, also it’s better if you know the position you are playing so you can play moves with confidence and you know the middle game better than your opponent. If your opponent doesn’t have any opening prep, the opponent will have to assess the position at hand and it’s often quite dangerous