Any Resources on the Rat Defense?

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BeanFinegold wrote:

"n fact, 1.d4 d6 2.c4 e5 is one of the few openings where Black is over 50%, and 3.dxe5?! dxe5 4.Qxd8 Kxd8 is even worse for White!"

 

50% what?

 

Are you saying that more than 50% of games by top 100 GMs are won in this opening?

 

So far there is lack of evidence and a bold claim of "over 50%", whatever that means. The Danvers Opening also has something similar with a 50% to 40% win for black. 

 

ThrillerFan, I can't make new posts on this thread. I asked for any game on the database. You haven't presented any. The ball is in your court.


Also, I asked for a 20 year span because I know some openings won't be played in a single tournament. So, the point I make is still valid. Why worry about an opening that hasn't been played seriously in serious important events? I am not talking about Nakamura and Carlsen playing the double bongcloud in a useless round that won't affect their standings.

 

Since I can't post anymore on this thread, it is now for the "rat" people to put up or shut up. I'll sit back and see if any of you can provide valid proof, and I already checked. Naroditsky and Tang playing it in the wee hours of the night online doesn't count.

 

The ball is not in my court.  I guarantee you that if you pull up Megabase 2021, and search for that position and restrict Black to over 2500 and the date be 2001 to 2021, you will find plenty of games.

 

Does not change the facts.  The facts are:

 

1) 2.c4 is a dubious move for White after 1.d4 d6.  2.e4! Is far stronger

2) You are too lazy to look for yourself and expect others to be a slave of yours rather than taking statement and finding for yourself that they are true.

3) That you understand nothing about statistics.

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Made_in_Shoreditch wrote:

After 1. d4 d6 2. c4 e5 3. dxe5 dxe5 4. Qxd8+ Kxd8  I found a number of World Championship games in the Chessbase online database from the likes of Seniors, U20's, U14's and U12's events including this game from the 2014 World Championship Blitz Final (Women)

 

and this game from 2001 where both players are rated over 2500 FIDE

 

/Enjoy

Thank you for sharing the games happy.png

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@ThrillerFan, @BeanFinegold is obviously just an idiot troll who can't be reasoned with. I humored him for a while but once it was clear he wasn't making sense I blocked him. I suggest you do the same. 

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Another book that may be of interest to you( maybe not) Vladimir Barsky
A universal weapon 1d4 d6
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This is most likely the line I will play as white if I ever face this again. It transposes into things I am familiar with. This troll's comments don't make much sense. Studying this opening makes a lot of sense, it transposes into other positions anyway with the advantage of sometimes having people choose the wrong variations.

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wids88 wrote:
Another book that may be of interest to you( maybe not) Vladimir Barsky
A universal weapon 1d4 d6

Thank you, I will check that out!

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nTzT wrote:

This is most likely the line I will play as white if I ever face this again. It transposes into things I am familiar with. This troll's comments don't make much sense. Studying this opening makes a lot of sense, it transposes into other positions anyway with the advantage of sometimes having people choose the wrong variations.

Yeah I'll have to look into some of these more critical ideas.