b3, Ba3

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BirdBrain wrote:

P_, if you want to play 1. b3, the standard lines involve 2. Bb2, which is very acceptable, and there is a very strong group on chess.com where you can learn the lines, if you are interested.

http://www.chess.com/groups/home/1b3-nimzo-larsen-attack

I play Bb2 normally. Got a bit bored of it :(

P_or

That is amazing abraham!

Thnx for the advice :)

IcyFire69

That was a great game! Your opponent played a great opening (the Sicilian Defense). However, you simply destroyed your opponent.

Charetter115

Maybe you would like this line in the Evans Gambit?

P_or

Here I go with another day of b3, Ba3.

I'll report back how i get on :)

DrSpudnik

b3/Ba3 is a tactic against the Stonewall Defense in the Dutch. If you can pop out that dark square Bishop, Black is mighty sad.

BirdsDaWord
abrahampenrose wrote:

Ok thriller and birdbrain I think you two are taking Ba3 way too seriously. She is only in the 1200s, games will be decided by much more basic details than openings, like letting pieces die unprotected and "exchanging" a rook + queen for a queen. 

With that said, I feel compelled to talk about playing so-called "real" openings. I hit the 1800's for the first time ever yesterday, after improving for the past three or five years from the 1200s. For the last few months I was stuck at the 1600-1700 level. 

The one thing that has changed recently is that I am willing to consider the so-called bad moves. I play 1. b4, 1, f4, 1. e4 Nc6 and even 1. h4 now, and they produced for me new and interesting ideas. After you have done your 1000th Ruy Lopez or Sicilian you get stuck in a rut and start to think that chess can only be played one way. 

Do I think that 1. b3 2. Ba3 is a good opening? No, of course not. Is it playable, especially at the 1200 level? Yes it is.

Now p_or, what you have been using so far works, but to reach the next level of chess, you will need to learn the "big" openings:

 

If you review this game you will see how good it is to have control of the center. Stronger than 1.b3 2. Ba3 :) 

No, I am just talking to her.  There are a lot of people who like to say "that idea is dumb", I am of the type who actually speaks to her about why she is playing it.  She answered why she is playing it.  Perhaps she will think about what I was saying - same for me - what do I seek to gain out of my openings?

P_or

I played one game and the guy kept talking in chat.

I did'nt reply but it took time to read and i screwed up badly.

Now i know how to turn chat off.

The start of the game was fine :)



pfren
P_or wrote:
The start of the game was fine :)

You missed a hanging exchange at move nine. I guess you have analysed it at home, and it's a trap?  Tongue Out

P_or

After move 19 brain  went woo woo :(

P_or
pfren wrote:
P_or wrote:
The start of the game was fine :)

You missed a hanging exchange at move nine. I guess you have analysed it at home, and it's a trap? 

I know. Not a good day :(

Mattsetzungsabsicht
IcyFire69

That's actually a different scenario. The Nimzowitsch variation of the Queen's Indian Defense (1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Ba6) is a solid choice for Black to choose from. It attacks the c4-pawn and forces White to make a decision. If White responds with 5. Qa4, 4...Bb7 is a solid option that causes the White queen to become misplaced on a4. If White responds with 5. b3, 5...Bb4+ is the best choice and leads to the main lines. If White responds with 5. Nbd2, Black can play 5...Bb7, 5...Bb4, or an immediate pawn push via 5...c5. My point is that the Nimzowitsch variation is a solid variation in which Black has a clear plan for the opening. The same can't be said for the opening discussed in this forum. It has no good plan. Against a good player, such an opening almost always backfires.

P_or

I decided to go 15/10 in next game. With chat turned off :)

This guy decides to move the B pawn too :)

Then kept getting disconnected and game was given to me.



BirdsDaWord

The problem is that your opponent played extremely passive in the opening, which gave you the chance to develop however you wanted.  

IcyFire69

That's definitely one of the strangest games I've ever seen! Still, your opponent didn't stand a chance against you. Only a pathetic person would resort to a futile strategy like disconnecting. However, I guess it's somewhat fun seeing such a futile strategy fail.

Mattsetzungsabsicht

yeah, but im not a friend of all that bla bla, i prefer concrete variations which i gave (coming to the same conclusion like you).

IcyFire69

I agree. Black can easily take advantage of this opening. However, in that game, Black played very passively and blundered into a completely lost position down two pawns.

Mattsetzungsabsicht

oh well, i was referring to #40 but some dudes were faster than me :-)

IcyFire69

Apparently, you misunderstood my post. The only reason I brought up those variations was to support my final conclusion.