ok fair enough. In that case Qe2 may be incorrect, although I do think white gets a lot of pressure and black's k-side is weakened.
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Feb 11, 2020
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I agree that it's maybe not a very practical choice from Black's point of view for an opening that you're hardly ever going to face; I'd probably play 5...Nb4 or 5...Be7 but I have seen very strong players take on e4, and then its a mess after Qe2 (as you say)
Aatish01012010 wrote:
[1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. Nd5 Nxe4]
What do you think the next move should be ?
In the 2003 book, The Four Knights, IM Jan Pinski discussed 6 Bc4 and 6 Qe2.
I think Bd3 myself
But Qe2 is the best move according to analysis
And Qe2 blocks bishop from developing and slows down the tempo of the game
melvinbluestone wrote:
After 6.Qe2 f5, ... maybe 7.Nd2 should be considered. ...
"!" - IM Jan Pinski (2003)
Feb 13, 2020
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#30
.... but it doesn't win, it's maybe good enough for slightly worse than equality
Feb 13, 2020
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#31
kindaspongey wrote:
melvinbluestone wrote:
After 6.Qe2 f5, ... maybe 7.Nd2 should be considered. ...
"!" - IM Jan Pinski (2003)
Yeah, I mean, Qxd3 and Nb4 is unpleasant for White. Black is also still up a pawn
melvinbluestone wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
melvinbluestone wrote:
After 6.Qe2 f5, ... maybe 7.Nd2 should be considered. ...
[1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. d4 exd4 5. Nd5 Nxe4 6. Qe2 f5 7. Nd2 d3]
"!" - IM Jan Pinski (2003)
Yeah, I mean, Qxd3 and Nb4 is unpleasant for White. Black is also still up a pawn
Yeah, this whole line looks pretty suspicious for white (my ridiculous blitz game not withstanding). In the DBs I checked, after 6.Qe2 f5, 7.Ng5 is most often played. But then 7...d3 is still a headache for white.
https://www.365chess.com/game.php?gid=4036465
Methinks Nd2 is no good because black can just play Be7 and then 0-0. White should win back the second pawn with equality. I still prefer 7. Bg5. I can't believe it's never been played.
Optimissed wrote:
Methinks Nd2 is no good because black can just play Be7 and ...
"7 Nd2 d3!" - IM Jan Pinski (2003)
Optimissed wrote:
... I still prefer 7. Bg5. I can't believe it's never been played.
https://www.365chess.com/game.php?gid=4036465
kindaspongey wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Methinks Nd2 is no good because black can just play Be7 and ...
"7 Nd2 d3!" - IM Jan Pinski (2003)>>>
OK point taken. It was late and I hadn't seen the diff. between Ng5 and Nd2 in that respect. Nd2 is obviously bad. But I want games with Bg5, not Ng5.
...Nxe4 is a mainline so unlikely that it loses by force.