Best Opening against 1.D4

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Eshaan_Atre

What is the best approach against 1. D4 for Black (mainly for intermediate players;I am 1312 rated in rapid Chess)? I am tired of just using fianchetto openings and systems (King's Indian, Grunfeld, Queen's Indian, Modern etc) against the Queen's Pawn Opening.

pythonhugger35

I think the best options are the Queen's pawn (d5), Dutch (f5) or Nimzo-Indian.

PLXMN2
Not queens pawn. That allows c4, queens gambit which is really strong
PLXMN2
(Tip. Play queens gambit declined instead of slav Vs queens gambit)
fremble
Why. The QGD and Slav are both solid options against the Queen’s Gambit. Neither is particularly better than the other.
ThrillerFan

There are a finite number of good responses to 1.d4, but no one is better than the others.

The following are your options. There are other lines, but they are inferior. It is simply a numbered list and NOT rankings:

1) Queen's Gambit Accepted

2) Queen's Gambit Declined*

3) Slav

4) Semi-Slav

5) Nimzo-Indian* (Must also know Queen's Indian or QGD)

6) King's Indian

7) Grunfeld

8) Dutch

* - You must also know what to do against the Catalan if you play one of those with an asterisk.

PedroG1464
PLXMN2 wrote:
Not queens pawn. That allows c4, queens gambit which is really strong

black is completely fine in the queen’s gambit

also the Slav is just as good as the QGD, some say even better. Why are you saying it’s bad?

Ilampozhil25

op doesnt want a g6 or b6 system

so... (assuming white plays d4 c4)

NID (if Nf3 then some QGD semi slav or bogo indian)

QGD

semi slav

regular slav

QGA 

dutch

maybe more idk

MaetsNori

I believe that all players should learn to play the Queen's Gambit Declined, at some point.

It's very principled and quite instructive.

Even if you decide that it's not for you, chances are you'll still learn something useful from the exposure to it.

These days, I prefer the Nimzo-Indian / Queen's Indian / Bogo Indian. But I consider the time I spent studying the QGD to have been quite helpful, as the ideas from the QGD sometimes overlap.

Hidethe_painHarold

QGA as everyone learns QGD and don't know what to do if you take on c4.

PedroG1464
Hidethe_painHarold wrote:

QGA as everyone learns QGD and don't know what to do if you take on c4.

No offense, that’s an outright lie. Not only is playing chess based on hoping your opponent doesn’t know how to play a very bad habit, but the second thing QG players learn is the QGA, and usually, black gets somewhat poor results.

Refrigerator321

The noteboom is fun

Refrigerator321

The main line

AngryPuffer
PotatoesAndChess wrote:

The noteboom is fun

AngryPuffer

explore lines and decide what you like best

Ilampozhil25

no offense but that looks impossible to go through

especially without names given, or something

so... many.... brackets....

AngryPuffer

i would have added more but decided not to

Ilampozhil25

wow

also, PLEASE put the most deepest lines as top as possible

it would help

e.g. there Nf6 had more lines so it could be the "mainline"

1Lindamea1
Eshaan_Atre написал:

What is the best approach against 1. D4 for Black (mainly for intermediate players;I am 1285 rated in rapid Chess at the time of posting)? I am tired of just using fianchetto openings and systems (King's Indian, Grunfeld, Queen's Indian, Modern etc) against the Queen's Pawn Opening.

Depends on what you play against e4. If you play the french you can try e6 with potentional dutch or nimzo-bogo transposition(not boring).

and play c5 Qb6 against the london

If you play the caro kann, you can try out the c6 move, with an intent to lash out d5 or some other tricky moves

and you can also use the anglo-slav(lion defence in another move order) if not sure how to respond(like if they make unusual moves)

If you play the sicilian dragon, the old benoni is for you

If you are a scandi player, I really like the hartlaub charlick

And, well. You can play D5. Thats how I like to think about d4. Just choose the defence like you did against e4.

AngryPuffer

blacks in serious trouble