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rebrvwd

I believe chess is solved. The Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense and Nimzo Indian Defense are the best opening moves.

ThrillerFan
rebrvwd wrote:

I believe chess is solved. The Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense and Nimzo Indian Defense are the best opening moves.

 

Clearly chess is not solved, because if it was, you would know whether 1.e4 or 1.d4 is stronger, and clearly you don't if you have to provide a response to each as "best play" by both sides.  Only way chess is solved is if you know all the best moves for both White and Black.

rebrvwd
ThrillerFan wrote:
rebrvwd wrote:

I believe chess is solved. The Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense and Nimzo Indian Defense are the best opening moves.

 

Clearly chess is not solved, because if it was, you would know whether 1.e4 or 1.d4 is stronger, and clearly you don't if you have to provide a response to each as "best play" by both sides.  Only way chess is solved is if you know all the best moves for both White and Black.

Are you dumb? they are both the moat popular moves whoch is why I mentioned them. Obviously e4 is better because it develoups the kingside bishop to castle and puts pressure on blacks position with the bishop.

ThrillerFan
rebrvwd wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
rebrvwd wrote:

I believe chess is solved. The Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense and Nimzo Indian Defense are the best opening moves.

 

Clearly chess is not solved, because if it was, you would know whether 1.e4 or 1.d4 is stronger, and clearly you don't if you have to provide a response to each as "best play" by both sides.  Only way chess is solved is if you know all the best moves for both White and Black.

Are you dumb? they are both the moat popular moves whoch is why I mentioned them. Obviously e4 is better because it develoups the kingside bishop to castle and puts pressure on blacks position with the bishop.

No, You're an idiot!

The point was here you go spouting what you think are best moves when what you said is not necessarily best play, they just happen to be popular, and e4 is not statistically the strongest move.  1.e4 scores 54 percent to d4's 56!

LM_player
Chess is not solved, and 1. e4 is not “obviously” the best opening. 1. d4 has very different plans and strategies than 1. e4, so you can’t just say “white develops his bishop!” This would be grossly oversimplifying matters. 1. d4 games require lots of strategy and planning, whereas 1. e4 is sharper and more tactical by nature. They are nearly impossible to compare.

Additionally, once you reach higher levels, you will soon learn that most of the time Black does not play 1...e5 against 1. e4. Rather, Black is more likely to play the Sicilian Defense (1...c5); wherefore, you will not be able to play a Ruy Lopez or Berlin Defense. Additionally, Black scores a much higher win percentage when he plays the Sicilian compared to when he plays 1...e5. Moreover still, It is also very likely that your opponent will play a French Defense or a Caro Kan, both of which being very solid and viable defenses for Black against 1. e4. Neither of them have been refuted, and they both seem to score quite nicely.

I also found it strange that you brought up the Nimzo-Indian Defense, seeing as though White could easily avoid the Nimzo-Indian by playing 3. Nf3 instead of 3. Nc3. Of course, that would mean that he would have to accept facing the Queen’s Indian Defense, the Bogo Indian, some kind of Benoni, and the Queen’s Gambit Declined with Nf3 and Nf6.

Thrillerfan actually uses reasoning and statistics to prove his point whereas you just assert nonsense. If you’d already solved chess, then you’d already be a Grandmaster by now. Learn and research before you talk gibberish! >:/

Sincerely and slightly annoyed,

-Lukay
kindaspongey

"There is no such thing as a 'best opening.' Each player should choose an opening that attracts him. Some players are looking for a gambit as White, others for Black gambits. Many players that are starting out (or have bad memories) want to avoid mainstream systems, others want dynamic openings, and others want calm positional pathways. It’s all about personal taste and personal need.
For example, if you feel you’re poor at tactics you can choose a quiet positional opening (trying to hide from your weakness and just play chess), or seek more dynamic openings that engender lots of tactics and sacrifices (this might lead to more losses but, over time, will improve your tactical skills and make you stronger)." - IM Jeremy Silman (January 28, 2016)
https://www.chess.com/article/view/opening-questions-and-a-dream-mate

najdorf96

Indeed. Again, another example of flawed thinking in newcomers to Chess (especially from those accounts, who just like to post on this site but don't actually play games here) just for clickbait: using Analytics vs Practical play. No substance. Mind you, I don't give too much credence in ratings or whatever of the OP, it's always the argument that I look forward to; debatable or not, at least the substance is post worthy. "Best Opening"? The openings sited are the only thing credible, your statement? Not even close. Cool, my friend✌🏽