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JZanturo94
Nov 13, 2021
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#21
B1ZMARK wrote:
Christianf859 wrote:

A pretty uncommon one, 1. Nc6.

It's worked for me wonderfully compared to other openings I've tried.

I play Nc6, and score not bad with it (otb too). But objectively, it's not so good.

Ok, stockfish doesn't like it, but so what? 

It usually get great positions and good winning chances against 2500 and 2600 rated players. I think that's good enough for the 2100 rated OP

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keep1teasy
Nov 13, 2021
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#22
Christianf859 wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
Christianf859 wrote:

A pretty uncommon one, 1. Nc6.

It's worked for me wonderfully compared to other openings I've tried.

I play Nc6, and score not bad with it (otb too). But objectively, it's not so good.

Ok, stockfish doesn't like it, but so what? 

It usually get great positions and good winning chances against 2500 and 2600 rated players. I think that's good enough for the 1400 rated OP

Who said anything about stockfish? It's just less sound. And I've seen 2800 player play d4 and follow it up with h4 h5 and a4 a5 and win against another 2800 online.

OP asking for best openings for black against e4. "Best" doesn't consider psychological stuff or possible no-prep issues.

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FM rychessmaster1
Nov 13, 2021
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#23

Nimzovich isn’t objectively sound that’s just a fact 

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IM pfren
Nov 13, 2021
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#24
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Nimzovich isn’t objectively sound that’s just a fact 

 

What's the problem with it?

You just have to answer 2.Nf3 with 2...e5, and that's it.

2.d4 d5 is fine for Black.

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Error_1256
Nov 14, 2021
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#25

Thank you everyone for your replies 

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keep1teasy
Nov 14, 2021
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#26
pfren wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Nimzovich isn’t objectively sound that’s just a fact 

 

What's the problem with it?

You just have to answer 2.Nf3 with 2...e5, and that's it.

2.d4 d5 is fine for Black.

What's your opinion on 2.Nf3 Nf6?

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IM pfren
Nov 14, 2021
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#27
B1ZMARK wrote:
pfren wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Nimzovich isn’t objectively sound that’s just a fact 

 

What's the problem with it?

You just have to answer 2.Nf3 with 2...e5, and that's it.

2.d4 d5 is fine for Black.

What's your opinion on 2.Nf3 Nf6?

 

If you have a temporary brain fart and have forgotten how the pawn(s) are moving, then it is the best move. At least it seems slightly better than 2...Rb8 to me.

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keep1teasy
Nov 14, 2021
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#28

k thanks

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FM rychessmaster1
Nov 14, 2021
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#29
pfren wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Nimzovich isn’t objectively sound that’s just a fact 

 

What's the problem with it?

You just have to answer 2.Nf3 with 2...e5, and that's it.

2.d4 d5 is fine for Black.

It is?

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keep1teasy
Nov 14, 2021
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#30
rychessmaster1 wrote:
pfren wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

Nimzovich isn’t objectively sound that’s just a fact 

 

What's the problem with it?

You just have to answer 2.Nf3 with 2...e5, and that's it.

2.d4 d5 is fine for Black.

It is?

I play it and have no real troubles.

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IM pfren
Nov 14, 2021
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#31
rychessmaster1 wrote:
 

It is?

Yes it is. After 3.e5 Bf5 Black will play ...e6 and a quick ...f6, and after 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.d5 Nb8! plus ...c6 White has next to nothing (or just nothing).

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FM rychessmaster1
Nov 15, 2021
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#32

I’m unwilling to believe black equalizes if white plays accurate in the 3. e5 line 

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IM pfren
Nov 15, 2021
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#33
rychessmaster1 wrote:

I’m unwilling to believe black equalizes if white plays accurate in the 3. e5 line 

 

You can believe whatever you like, but Black's task in this line is easier than in the advance Caro, as ...f6 is easy to implement.