Caro-Kann Defense, Advance Variation, Mitchell version (my version)

One of my favorite openings that I love to play against is the Caro-Kann Defense, Advanced Variation, my version. I played it once for the very first time and won the game!! I was so amazed that I won a game in which I did not know the opening at all. I played by instinct. I wished I had the game notation and written it correctly. I had lost it so I was doing it by memory.

What's the purpose of 5...Bb4 and 7.b4? Bb4 loses a tempo and b4 is weakening.

The OP is severely weak and naive.

As a Caro-Kann player, I can easily point out that:

4...h5 OR

4...e6 and any of 5...c5, 5...Nd7, 5...Ne7, or 5...Ne6 all score over 55% for Black, and in MOST cases, above 60% (5...Nd7 only scores in the upper 50's for Black).

4.f4?! is dubious at best, and that's giving it more credit than it should get!

hey don't be that hard on him he is only like 1400 standard. But seriously, I play caro-kann too and f4 is what my friend plays and he says that it is an aggressive opening for white. FYI, just because you won your FIRST game with the caro-kann with one variation doesn't make it a good variation or a good opening to play against. Your opponent seemed to be playing badly.

Being 1400 does not make you immune to ridicule! A 1400 player should be ASKING QUESTIONS, not SHOWING OFF about how great you think you are because you creamed another low rated opponent!

Had he reworded it and ASKED whether 4.f4 and his opening line of play was right or not, my response would have been different.

You ask questions as a 1400 player, I'm more than glad to answer them.  You start trying to show off about how great you are as a 1400 player, the point will be made about how weak you really are because you shouldn't be trying to show off at that level.

Oh really?? I am a weak player?? Do you call intermediate players weak players?? Apparently, you would consider everyone rated a lot lower than you as weak player. I would say that you are a very weak player, compared to those who are rated much higher than yourself. So, before you put weaker players than you down, I would suggest that you think about your play against much higher players!!

As for my f4 move, I thought it was a good move because it was the beginning of my attack on the kingside. So, it was not a dubious move. I happened to win the game!! Like I said, I had never played against the Caro-Kann Defense. I also wanted to try something different!!

That was a very good question. I did not know why my opponent played 5. ... Bb4+. Actually, b4 was not a weakening move at all.

LOL Nope, I am a 1500s player. I can hold on my own against 1600s players. Only once did I beat a 1700s player.

I don't consider myself particularly strong, I'm well aware that internationally titled players play on an entirely different level from me. However, I suppose my NM title counts for something. Also, the Caro happens to be my mainstay as black against 1. e4, so I know a thing or two about that opening.

I agree with what Thrillerfan wrote: 4. f4 is dubious. It dooms white's dark squared bishop to long term suckitude. As black, my plan would be to play h5, Nh6, then relocate the light squared bishop and play Nf5, and then play for a pawn break at c5. This is a pretty standard plan for black in this type of position. White gets nothing on the kingside in this setup, and if he gets nothing on the kingside then f4 wasn't good. (If white tries h3 to prepare for g4, then black's reply h4 is strong).

 In the original poster's game, black's idea of Bb4 was simply bad. That bishop's main purpose is to support c5, and it didn't need to move at all in order to achieve that purpose. Black essentially wasted three tempi with that bishop, for no good reason.

As for white, white made far too many pawn moves in the opening. Against stronger opponents, you won't get away with moving pawns on six of your first seven moves.

Anyway, keep exploring new stuff in the openings, and have fun doing it. It's all part of learning. Take this post as constructive criticism, not as an attack. 

Like I said, I did not know why my opponent did Bb4+. If he had done a different move, I would have done something different, ofc. I still love the idea of 4. f4. I always have Nf3 to counter e6. My purpose was to move my queen knight to c5, hence my pawn moves on the queenside.

I had been trying to reconstruct the game from memory, but failed every time.  I will keep trying to get it correctly, though.

Who  are you to judge others when you know nothing about them?? You have some nerve. I am NOT trolling anyone. Mind your own business!!

4.f4 is a bad, bad move. It blocks your bishop. It creates awful permanent hole ad e4. It makes your pieces hate you, just like soldiers would hate an incompetent general, putting their lives at risk in a doomed offensive. Hear white knight on g1 swear: "where the hell is that lovely f4 square?". The tree that f4 pawn has been made of would prefer to be burned than misused for playing this kind of chess. Even your keyboard sobs silently as you type that you like that move. Furthermore, 4.f4 actually makes moving kingside pawns forward much more difficult, so after that move you positon becomes less agressive. All Black has to do is to control g4, playing ...h5. If you try h3 to get your pawns rolling, blck plays ...h4, g3 square is weak and you dream about moving f4 pawn backwards.

Compare that with 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5. g4 (your pawns will be moving like crazy!) or with another pawn move: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.h4 h5 5.c4 (bishop on c1 is happy to go to g5 at some point, kingside is safe for now, so you can play c4 on the other wing)

I actually have been testing f4. Sometimes, I have success and sometimes, I don't. I plan on making f4 be a very successful move, despite what people say. After all, chess is all about experimenting with moves. Expect the unexpected as the saying goes.

No, I have not forgotten the Opening Principles. What about the King's Indian Defense: Four Pawn Attack?? I just need to find a way to make it a successful opening like I said. Besides, those moves depended on what black does.

Everything that needed to be said in this thread was already said in 2016. The newer posts haven't added any new insights, and too many of them are lacking in basic civility.
Nobody enjoys a pissing match. Please stop.
Please also resist the temptation to get the last word in, just let the thread end here.

but why there are bad moves that are considered as openings, variations, and whatsoever like the grob opening and sicilian defense, king david's opening?

What does my judging a coach have to do with this thread?? You mind your own business!! You don't even know how to play the game!! LOL What does Ï got the nerve your face" mean?? It makes no sense at all. Learn your grammar!! LOL

Actually, Bramblyspam is overly humble, if anything. He is one of my teammates on two Caro-Kann vote Chess groups and although he and I don`t always agree, he is very respectful. The OP really should start apologizing to many people and listen to us who know much more about Chess than him. By the way, do not judge me on my low blitz rating; check out my profile.