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dillydream

P.S.  The coach on Fritz will also suggest a move which would have been better.

Deranged

None of the free downloads work, at least not for me.

I tried downloading Houdini for free on the internet, but it didn't work so now I just have to put up with chessmaster 10th edition instead (which I paid for).

tarrasch

http://www.chess.com/download/view/houdini15

http://www.cruxis.com/chess/houdini.htm

 

Both of these work for me. If they don't work for you, you could just ask someone on the forums to email it to you.

KINGDASHER

Which is the best search engine Houdini or Fritz Grandmaster 11. 

KINGDASHER
dillydream wrote:

Hi Pepsifreyja,

I'm a beginner too, and I know what you're going through.  I hope this helps.  I bought the DVD "Fritz Grandmaster 11", for the modest price of Ten U.S. dollars.  I don't know whether it is available in Ireland?  If it is, I would recommend it, because it has the kind of engine you are asking about.  After you install the program on your computer, all you have to do is click on "Play Fritz", and you start a game.  If you make a terribly bad move, the cigar-smoking coach appears in a window and tells you so, in as many words.  You can then ignore his advice or take back your bad move, depending on how you feel about it.  One word of caution - I would turn off the sound on your computer while you play, because your opponent talks to you (often quite derisively) all through the game, and I find it horribly distracting.  A second word of caution - Fritz does not come with an instruction manual, but you can get good information on how to use it by googling Steve Lopez Fritz Instruction Manual.  If you cannot obtain Fritz, try looking for Chessmaster at about the same price, as it has similar features, and comes with its own manual on the disk.


Thanks very much dillyream that is exactly what I was thinking about. You are a star. Thank for the very good advice I appreciate it very much.

tarrasch

Fritz is weak, there are many engines ( not search engine, just engine ) which are better than it. Houdini 1.5 is the strongest engine at the moment.

TheSpill

What is a chess engine? Can anyone access and use one? Will it help me learn and improve?

KINGDASHER
tarrasch wrote:

Fritz is weak, there are many engines ( not search engine, just engine ) which are better than it. Houdini 1.5 is the strongest engine at the moment.


What is the difference between a search engine and just an engine??? I see by your comments Houdine is a engine Is FritZ an engine also, Thanks for the input

KINGDASHER
pepsifreyja wrote:
tarrasch wrote:

Fritz is weak, there are many engines ( not search engine, just engine ) which are better than it. Houdini 1.5 is the strongest engine at the moment.


What is the difference between a search engine and just an engine??? I see by your comments Houdine is a engine Is FritZ an engine also, Thanks for the input

Took you up wrong tarrasch See what you are saying that there is no such thing as a chess search engine only a chess engine. Thanks for your links to download Houdine. This is great for a new member to be getting such good advice and learn the knowledge of the game.

dillydream
pepsifreyja wrote:
dillydream wrote:

Hi Pepsifreyja,

I'm a beginner too, and I know what you're going through.  I hope this helps.  I bought the DVD "Fritz Grandmaster 11", for the modest price of Ten U.S. dollars.  I don't know whether it is available in Ireland?  If it is, I would recommend it, because it has the kind of engine you are asking about.  After you install the program on your computer, all you have to do is click on "Play Fritz", and you start a game.  If you make a terribly bad move, the cigar-smoking coach appears in a window and tells you so, in as many words.  You can then ignore his advice or take back your bad move, depending on how you feel about it.  One word of caution - I would turn off the sound on your computer while you play, because your opponent talks to you (often quite derisively) all through the game, and I find it horribly distracting.  A second word of caution - Fritz does not come with an instruction manual, but you can get good information on how to use it by googling Steve Lopez Fritz Instruction Manual.  If you cannot obtain Fritz, try looking for Chessmaster at about the same price, as it has similar features, and comes with its own manual on the disk.


Thanks very much dillyream that is exactly what I was thinking about. You are a star. Thank for the very good advice I appreciate it very much.


You're very welcome.  So many people have helped me on this forum, and it feels good to be able to help someone myself.

dillydream

Hi Pepsifreyja,

Just as a footnote, if I were you I would search out other opinions before you make your choice between Fritz 11 and Chessmaster 10.  I have used both, and as a beginner I find Chessmaster 10 much easier to use.  Fritz is very good, but I believe it is designed mainly for more advanced players.  Chessmaster 10 has a lot of stuff for real beginners, and it is also set up in such a way that you don't need to be terribly technical to use it.  I could not figure out Fritz 11 until I found some instructions on the Internet, but I have been able to use Chessmaster without even looking at the manual at all.

tarrasch

Chessmaster is only worth the money because of the Academy by Josh Waitzkin.

Imo, Fritz doesn't have any features which make it worthwhile, Houdini or Rybka are much better at analysis.

SirBuster
pepsifreyja wrote:

What is the difference between a search engine and just an engine?

 

 

 

 

Both help. So nothing is to differentiate.One helps to search a topic and another is chess engine which can analyse and even suggests you the best move of a given chess position. But to use it during a game is cheating but after the game a blessing. So never use it during a game otherwise you would not enjoy the game and never be certain about your true potentials and rating. And if you use it during a game you could be caught by the staffs and would be banned for cheating so never use it. I just can suggest only. To follow or not to follow depends upon the upbringing and society you live in.

dillydream
tarrasch wrote:

Chessmaster is only worth the money because of the Academy by Josh Waitzkin.

Imo, Fritz doesn't have any features which make it worthwhile, Houdini or Rybka are much better at analysis.


You may be correct (I don't know) at a more advanced level.  But for a beginner, those fancy advanced features are not a great deal of use.

dillydream

Also, the Academy by Josh Waitzkin is absolutely wonderful for a beginner.  I had never even played a game until I tried Chessmaster, and it taught me so much.  I also had a ton of fun playing against computer opponents as weak as myself.

trysts
pepsifreyja wrote:
trysts wrote:
pepsifreyja wrote:

You sound to me a person that looks down on people that are starting the game Maybe you are one of the video teachers that cannot come down to a beginner level


No, I don't "look down" on beginners. I mean, good luck! But, what I am saying is, if you want to keep the chess community interested in your video, don't make it for beginners. Beginners, should put some effort into the game, instead of complaining that they don't understand what's going on.


What I said was why not make chess videos suitable for beginners and more advance players. Who said beginners do not put an effort in to there game. I think this is an insult to beginners of the game. You must learn before you can walk. When a person starts to learn anything they must ask questions so they can learn. I think you forgot  the time you started playing chess. I sure you got advice from people about the game. So please stop insulting beginners when we ask question. We ask questions because we want to learn. By asking questions it shows we want to learn and we that ask questions and look for information from people (not like yourself) will one day be pass you standard.


I meant no insult to beginners. But, for reasons unknown to me, you find my comments insulting. Asking questions is the only way to learn, yes. But, criticising chess videos for being too fast, or advanced for you, saying that the videos have failed because you don't think they are catering to beginners, I find to be self-absorbed, and does not take into account the work that must be done by you already, before you may appreciate them. It is the difference between a true beginner who understands their ignorance of the game and knows that they must put more effort into it, and the over-sensitive bore, who wishes to criticise the people making chess videos for the general chess community by saying the flaw is in them, but not in you.

Lopsidation

Chess videos go fast to save on loading time and bandwidth.

If it's going too fast, just pause to analyze the position yourself.

KINGDASHER
I do not agree with you that videos go fast to save loading time and bandwidth. Loading time depends on the size of the video nothing to do with how fast the video Trainer is going trough a video lesson. The larger the size of a video the longer it will take to load. Bandwidth depends on the amount of space the video takes up again nothing to do with how fast a video trainer goes though a training video. The only think a fast video will do is make the video be finished faster in time then a video running a slower speed. A faster video will cover more on a shorter space of time It will take longer g
KINGDASHER
dillydream wrote:

Hi Pepsifreyja,

Just as a footnote, if I were you I would search out other opinions before you make your choice between Fritz 11 and Chessmaster 10.  I have used both, and as a beginner I find Chessmaster 10 much easier to use.  Fritz is very good, but I believe it is designed mainly for more advanced players.  Chessmaster 10 has a lot of stuff for real beginners, and it is also set up in such a way that you don't need to be terribly technical to use it.  I could not figure out Fritz 11 until I found some instructions on the Internet, but I have been able to use Chessmaster without even looking at the manual at all.


Thanks again for your advice I will try Chessmaster and take it from there

dillydream

While we're discussing various engines, can someone provide a definition of "engine".  I'm thinking it just means a program.  Am I correct?