I am not familiar with that book, but I typically play either Sicilian or King's Indian as black. Sometimes I try the Modern Defense, which is also interesting.
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What is hard to follow in that book? They primarily cover the main lines after 1 ... Nf6 and 2 ... e6. Chapter 30 covers 4 Bd2 with 6 Bg2, Chapter 31 covers 4 Bd2 and Nc3, and Chapter 32 covers 4 Nbd2. (If White responds 4 Nc3, then you're basically back into the Nimzo-Indian again). What else is White playing against you? If you want more extensive coverage, you can google complete books on the Bogo-Indian, or wait for someone who will be happy to plaster you with links to books and quotes from other players that you could google yourself.
If you don't like the Bogo-Indian lines after 3 Nf3, you could try the Queen's Indian with 3 ... b6, followed by fianchettoing your Queen's bishop.
i dont know why, but i just have a bad record with bogo indian
Jul 20, 2019
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I remember borrowing it to learn more about the Nimzo, but I ended up learning a lot more about the Accelerated Dragon. My usual Nimzo companion opening is the Queen's Indian, but 3...c5 can go into a Benoni and get things less drawish, but the themes are a lot different and you will have no chance at returning to NID lines. 3...d5 gives a QGD, and you may even get a Ragozin NID after 4 Nc3 Bb4. I guess I'd say that if you don't like the BID, the QID isn't that much different. Usually NID players are trying to get away from QGD games. So look into the Benoni?
Personally, with people I play alot, I like to mix 3-4 options against 3.Nf3 so they have a harder time preparing. Otherwise, I think BID is the best play for a draw against a stronger player, QID is pretty good at drawing (broadly) even players or letting the stronger win a sizable mismatch--it's easy to make catastrophic positional errors I think, but hard to force anything. Benoni favors white for evenly matched players, but is good for black if there's a mismatch in either direction--there is a chance for chaos. I rarely go QGD, but if it's in your repertoire, this is a fine move order to offer the Nimzo first before transposing as you're only giving up options like the QGA, the Slav, or some gimmicky QG defenses.
If you want to play the Nimzo-Indian against 3 Nc3, you will need to pair it with a defense against 3 Nf3. The two main ways are to either play the Bogo (probably simpler to learn and more in keeping with the character of the Nimzo, with the bonus that it could always transpose), or the Queen's Indian. The QI was a favorite of Karpov, so you might want to review his games or study a book on it if you want to try that defense (probably generally much more complicated than the Bogo). Or just keep trying with the Bogo, find and review your mistakes when you lose, and gradually improve your play with it.
I'm assuming that most who choose the Nimzo do so because they don't prefer to play the QGD, QGA, or Benoni or related systems, but there is an advantage to your move order in transposing to the QGD against 3 Nf3, since you would be avoiding White's strongest lines if he chooses to play the Exchange Variation.
Jul 20, 2019
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You could also argue that this move order avoids the Flick-Knife Attack in the Benoni--though it also makes the Benko less of an option for black.
right, i am thinking to study Qgd or qid next, which one should try first?
I don't think anyone can go wrong by studying the QGD, one of the all-time greatest Classical Openings of chess. It is varied in its complexity, but you can restrict your study to those variations which you can control getting into as Black. Any good chess player should have a basic familiarity with the QGD, then you could try to pick up the QID, which would probably be made easier by understanding the QGD somewhat well first.
There are numerous excellent books on the QG/QGD by various authors. For a starter, I would recommend starting out: the queen's gambit by John Shaw or Chess Explained: The Queen's Gambit Declined by James Rizzitano. Or even just studying the QGD section in a one-volume tome such as Fundamental Chess Openings by Paul van der Sterren, which you could then also use as a primer for many other openings including the QI, Nimzo and Bogo-Indians, and many others.
There is also a DVD, How to Play the Queen's Gambit by Garry Kasparov, if you prefer to train with him. These are just a few of many.
There is also a DVD, How to Play the Queen's Gambit by Garry Kasparov, if you prefer to train with him. These are just a few of many.
Of course, with the Kasparov DVD, he is primarily looking at playing it from the White side, but it might give you some ideas of what to prepare for against White.
I agree the Slav is a good defense, but how does Black play that opening after the move order given in the OP of 2 ... e6? Maybe transpose into the Semi-Slav, but both those openings are covered under the QGD umbrella.
Most authors probably consider the Slav complex to be a separate opening and only consider the move order 1 d4 d5 2 c4 e6 (or transpositions) to be a true QGD and don't give coverage to the Slav in their books on the QGD. However, it is technically another way of declining the Queen's Gambit. Pachman, in his book on the Queen's Gambit and Other Close Openings, covers the Slav, Semi-Slav, Tarrasch, and others under the general category of QGD openings. But once Black plays ... e6 on the second move, it can't really be a pure Slav.
xenophon1 wrote:
I am not familiar with that book, but I typically play either Sicilian or King's Indian as black. Sometimes I try the Modern Defense, which is also interesting.
it is kasparovs black opening repertoir, i read somewhere that he stopped play it later on, changed to something solid
Zugerzwang wrote:
I agree the Slav is a good defense, but how does Black play that opening after the move order given in the OP of 2 ... e6? Maybe transpose into the Semi-Slav, but both those openings are covered under the QGD umbrella.
if i want a more open game and take the c4 pawn, it change into slav eventrually is it?
I'm not sure where you heard it was Kasparov's opening repertoire. That's not to say he hasn't played some or many of the openings, but it is a repertoire put together by Lev Alburt, Roman Dzindzichashvili, and Eugene Perelshteyn.
I think it's quite possible that with the move ... c6 and either ... dxc4 by Black or cxd5 by White, that the opening could transpose into Slav lines. That might be a good idea to investigate. I'm not an expert on those openings or how to get into them by transposition.
I think it's quite possible that with the move ... c6 and either ... dxc4 by Black or cxd5 by White, that the opening could transpose into Slav lines. That might be a good idea to investigate. I'm not an expert on those openings or how to get into them by transposition.
Zugerzwang wrote:
I'm not sure where you heard it was Kasparov's opening repertoire. That's not to say he hasn't played some or many of the openings, but it is a repertoire put together by Lev Alburt, Roman Dzindzichashvili, and Eugene Perelshteyn.
I think it's quite possible that with the move ... c6 and either ... dxc4 by Black or cxd5 by White, that the opening could transpose into Slav lines. That might be a good idea to investigate. I'm not an expert on those openings or how to get into them by transposition.
I think it's quite possible that with the move ... c6 and either ... dxc4 by Black or cxd5 by White, that the opening could transpose into Slav lines. That might be a good idea to investigate. I'm not an expert on those openings or how to get into them by transposition.
i was referring to xenphone's sicilian + kings indian, it was used by kasparov. what about study time? the d4 d5 system or qid system, which one took more time to learn? or the KID?
what do yo think about the book chess opening for black explained by GM Lev Alburt and Roman Dzindzchvilli. personally i found the sicilian and nimzo indian are useful. however the bogo indian lines the book suggested is hard to follow. and with Nf3 line become popular, what is a good opition for black with 1 ...Nf6 and 2... e6 move order?