Can somebody suggest a tricky opening repertoire?

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PlaysFairly did you really start at 2/1/20? You're surprisingly strong. Want to play a daily game? It could be good practice for me.

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It says you don't accept challenges. Could you go ahead and challenge me? One would be fine or a couple.

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PlaysFairly wrote:
KingSideInvasion wrote:

It says you don't accept challenges. Could you go ahead and challenge me? One would be fine or a couple.

Oh,  I am sorry,  I will change my settings,  I forgot I set that after being spammed a little bit

No problem!

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I don't personally play this, but it catches a lot of players (especially in blitz). It's an opening called the Grob Attack and it starts with g4. Here are two videos on it:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=grob+attack+chess&view=detail&mid=5D3A462DB3ECE66FE4975D3A462DB3ECE66FE497&FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=grob+attack+chess&view=detail&mid=94629A5ECFA59B5D0A0694629A5ECFA59B5D0A06&FORM=VIRE

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you cant advocate for something you dont play!

....the damiano defense on the other hand....wink.png

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KingSideInvasion wrote:

I am around 1600 online, 1400 OTB... I am looking for an opening repertoire that gives my opponents many chances to go wrong. I don't want those crazy openings that are 100% based off of traps and you can't win unless they fall for the trap, but I want a repertoire that is tricky yet solid and will give me good practical winning chances against other amateur chess players.

 

Thanks!

Tricky, not based on traps, many chances for amateurs to go wrong, and solid if they don't go wrong.

That describes basically any opening you learn well (other than openings that try to kill the position like the petroff or berlin).

Play classically with e4 or d4 and as black meet e4 with e5 and d4 with d5. Look at a lot of games, study things like pawn structure and endgames.

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I was under the impression that a3 was considered playing classically...🤔

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And if you look at a lot of GM games you catch ideas you'll like.

Here's an example of a game I won today (some unrated anonymous game).

 

 

And you might say, oh, Bxc6 with d3. How boring. I want something where they can go wrong!

Well, lets watch what happens.

 

I didn't play it perfectly (the engine says I shouldn't have allowed 11...Ng4), but I saw this idea in a GM game, and so now I use it in 3...Bc5 games to good effect.

The more stuff like this you see, the better your repertoire will be.

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I legit played 1...g6 in an otb tournament game today to get out of playing that line as Black @llama. That speaks volumes about its boring-ness, but also is a testament to how solid and uncommon this line is. Or as Kingside puts it "tricky". That opening is surprisingly difficult to prove an advantage against ...and trust me, I tried to prepare against it for an hour before eventually deciding to play g6 instead.

Oh, and players like Bobby Fischer played it @kingside happy.png I personally wouldn't play it myself, but as someone who had to go out of their way to avoid it and from an opponent's perspective, I would recommend it.

Okay, I just realized none of that made any sense tongue.png

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I don't see what your problem with playing normally is...just find an opening that suits you and play it. Study some lines. The tricks might work against some low rated players but once you go up people will rarely fall for that stuff

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1_d41-0 wrote:

I don't see what your problem with playing normally is...just find an opening that suits you and play it. Study some lines. The tricks might work against some low rated players but once you go up people will rarely fall for that stuff

#evansgambit 

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1_d41-0 wrote:

I don't see what your problem with playing normally is...just find an opening that suits you and play it. Study some lines. The tricks might work against some low rated players but once you go up people will rarely fall for that stuff

Ya

Basically play the Englund Gambit rcu approves

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DAMIANO DEFENCE

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no, its a joke...

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bruh, the benko is NOT unsound. Neither is the Modern Defence (aka the Robustachnsoiagjjynnstuqhgwtu7q8ynuh)

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1_a31-0 wrote:

I legit played 1...g6 in an otb tournament game today to get out of playing that line as Black @llama. That speaks volumes about its boring-ness, but also is a testament to how solid and uncommon this line is. Or as Kingside puts it "tricky". That opening is surprisingly difficult to prove an advantage against ...and trust me, I tried to prepare against it for an hour before eventually deciding to play g6 instead.

Oh, and players like Bobby Fischer played it @kingside  I personally wouldn't play it myself, but as someone who had to go out of their way to avoid it and from an opponent's perspective, I would recommend it.

Okay, I just realized none of that made any sense

You played g6 to get out of playing 3...Bc5? What do you mean?

Anyway, I've played 1.Nf3 OTB with nothing in mind but to get out of book (and I'm not a 1.d4 player so it's not like I can transpose to something I know well).

As long as you know structures and have general chess knowledge pretty much anything works fine at our level.

But if you want to be "tricky and solid" then you have to study.

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i play 1...g6 to get out of the exchange lopez stuff

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PlaysFairly wrote:
1_a31-0 wrote:

bruh, the benko is NOT unsound. Neither is the Modern Defence (aka the Robustachnsoiagjjynnstuqhgwtu7q8ynuh)

Maybe it's not unsound between two super computers but I can beat stockfish 1 out of 5 times as white and I never lose.  White has an easy game and black has to grovel just to not lose.

u sound like lyudmil tsvetkov 

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@Lyudmil_Tsvetkov