use the bishop tp block. dont get into a pin by using the knight.
Countering an anti-sicilian
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btw i think its called rossolimo variation
I play 3...Nc6, that way I can use the same variation when I play 2...Nc6 (3.Bb5 d6) and 2...d6 (3.Bb5+ Nc6).
But only 3...Qd7 is bad, the other legal moves are all fine.
3...Nd7 is probably more ambitious but also more risky. I personally have always preferred the solid 3...Bd7 followed by 4...Qxd7.
Hedgehog formation, then!
This is actually the Moscow
Black should block on d7 probably but not with the Queen
Rossolimo is 2...Nc6 3.Bb5
JonathanTee wrote:
btw i think its called rossolimo variation
no the rossolimo is in the sveshnakov and accelrated dragon and is far better than the moscow
block with the bishop foce a trade of light squared bishops and have a good game
blasterdragon wrote:
JonathanTee wrote:
btw i think its called rossolimo variation
no the rossolimo is in the sveshnakov and accelrated dragon and is far better than the moscow
block with the bishop foce a trade of light squared bishops and have a good game
Once again the low-rated opening junkie shows his ignorance while trying to correct people. The Sveshnikov is a variation reached after, for example, 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 (critical move, otherwise it's not even an Open Sicilian, let alone a Sveshnikov) cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5.
The Accelerated Dragon is normally reached after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4(again, see above) cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6.
The Rossolimo Variation is NOT an Open Sicilian at all, and is therefore not part of the Sveshnikov OR the Accelerated Dragon, and is reached after the moves 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5.
Just because an opening has the same first two moves does not make it the same as another opening. The Ruy Lopez is not a variation of the Italian with the Bishop on b5 instead of c4. The Dragon is not a variation of the Najdorf. And the Grunfeld is not a variation of the King's Indian Defense.
Expertise87 wrote:
blasterdragon wrote:
JonathanTee wrote:
btw i think its called rossolimo variation
no the rossolimo is in the sveshnakov and accelrated dragon and is far better than the moscow
block with the bishop foce a trade of light squared bishops and have a good game
Once again the low-rated opening junkie shows his ignorance while trying to correct people. The Sveshnikov is a variation reached after, for example, 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 (critical move, otherwise it's not even an Open Sicilian, let alone a Sveshnikov) cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5.
The Accelerated Dragon is normally reached after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4(again, see above) cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6.
The Rossolimo Variation is NOT an Open Sicilian at all, and is therefore not part of the Sveshnikov OR the Accelerated Dragon, and is reached after the moves 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5.
Just because an opening has the same first two moves does not make it the same as another opening. The Ruy Lopez is not a variation of the Italian with the Bishop on b5 instead of c4. The Dragon is not a variation of the Najdorf. And the Grunfeld is not a variation of the King's Indian Defense.
... the open sicilian is 1.e4 1.c5 2.Nf3 2.D6 the Sveshnikov is not the open sicilian idiot
The Sveshnikov is a variation of the open sicilian, the moscow is not. In the open sicilian white plays d4, so 1. e4 c5 Nf3 d6 is not necesarily an open sicilian.
shepi13 wrote:
In the open sicilian white plays d4, so 1. e4 c5 Nf3 d6 is not necesarily an open sicilian.
This.
shepi13 wrote:
The Sveshnikov is a variation of the open sicilian, the moscow is not. In the open sicilian white plays d4, so 1. e4 c5 Nf3 d6 is not necesarily an open sicilian.
The point is in my first post i said that the rossolimo came normally from the Sveshnikov and accelerated dragon and Expertise suddenly thought i was talking about the open sicilian and the moscow i think he got confused between the two variations
Expertise87 wrote:
blasterdragon wrote:
JonathanTee wrote:
btw i think its called rossolimo variation
no the rossolimo is in the sveshnakov and accelrated dragon and is far better than the moscow
block with the bishop foce a trade of light squared bishops and have a good game
Once again the low-rated opening junkie shows his ignorance while trying to correct people. The Sveshnikov is a variation reached after, for example, 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 (critical move, otherwise it's not even an Open Sicilian, let alone a Sveshnikov) cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5.
The Accelerated Dragon is normally reached after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4(again, see above) cxd4 4.Nxd4 g6.
The Rossolimo Variation is NOT an Open Sicilian at all, and is therefore not part of the Sveshnikov OR the Accelerated Dragon, and is reached after the moves 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5.
Just because an opening has the same first two moves does not make it the same as another opening. The Ruy Lopez is not a variation of the Italian with the Bishop on b5 instead of c4. The Dragon is not a variation of the Najdorf. And the Grunfeld is not a variation of the King's Indian Defense.
I said specifically that the rossolimo came from the Sveshnikov and acc dragon i didn't say that it was the open sicilian
The sveshnikov and acc dragons are open sicilians, so it was implied.
He also thinks only 2...d6 leads to an Open Sicilian! The opening guru strikes again!
Basically, blasterdragon, everything in my post was accurate, and everything in your post is wrong. I posted what the Sveshnikov and Accelerated Dragon are.
You were even given a way out by FirebrandX, but you had to show your ignorance even further by insisting that the Sveshnikov and Accelerated Dragon are not Open Sicilians!
The Open Sicilian refers to, at the very least, the moves 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 (and here Black has several moves but they will all be called Open Sicilians should White play d2-d4 but for example:) 2...d6 or 2...Nc6 or 2...e6, 3.d4.
3.Bb5 in any position will never be called an Open Sicilian, but it is only the Rossolimo if Black plays 2...Nc6(which is not a confused Sveshnikov/Accelerated Dragon but instead a 2...Nc6 Sicilian, and does not become the other variations until the relevant moves are played, which I already gave in my earlier post #10)
Also, stop studying openings like the Sicilian and stop saying dumb stuff on the forums if you want to improve.
Expertise87 wrote:
He also thinks only 2...d6 leads to an Open Sicilian! The opening guru strikes again!
Basically, blasterdragon, everything in my post was accurate, and everything in your post is wrong. I posted what the Sveshnikov and Accelerated Dragon are.
You were even given a way out by FirebrandX, but you had to show your ignorance even further by insisting that the Sveshnikov and Accelerated Dragon are not Open Sicilians!
The Open Sicilian refers to, at the very least, the moves 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 (and here Black has several moves but they will all be called Open Sicilians should White play d2-d4 but for example:) 2...d6 or 2...Nc6 or 2...e6, 3.d4.
3.Bb5 in any position will never be called an Open Sicilian, but it is only the Rossolimo if Black plays 2...Nc6(which is not a confused Sveshnikov/Accelerated Dragon but instead a 2...Nc6 Sicilian, and does not become the other variations until the relevant moves are played, which I already gave in my earlier post #10)
Also, stop studying openings like the Sicilian and stop saying dumb stuff on the forums if you want to improve.
oh my god your idioticness never stops i said that the rosolimo comes from the sveshnikov and acc dragon when black TRIES TO PLAY IT GOT IT DUMASS that was implied obviously your inteligence is so low you need me to explain every little thing and don't tell me what to do if you are stupid enough not to even understand someones post when they post it in plain english
Expertise87 wrote:
He also thinks only 2...d6 leads to an Open Sicilian! The opening guru strikes again!
Basically, blasterdragon, everything in my post was accurate, and everything in your post is wrong. I posted what the Sveshnikov and Accelerated Dragon are.
You were even given a way out by FirebrandX, but you had to show your ignorance even further by insisting that the Sveshnikov and Accelerated Dragon are not Open Sicilians!
The Open Sicilian refers to, at the very least, the moves 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 (and here Black has several moves but they will all be called Open Sicilians should White play d2-d4 but for example:) 2...d6 or 2...Nc6 or 2...e6, 3.d4.
3.Bb5 in any position will never be called an Open Sicilian, but it is only the Rossolimo if Black plays 2...Nc6(which is not a confused Sveshnikov/Accelerated Dragon but instead a 2...Nc6 Sicilian, and does not become the other variations until the relevant moves are played, which I already gave in my earlier post #10)
Also, stop studying openings like the Sicilian and stop saying dumb stuff on the forums if you want to improve.
Unless you are a rare exception (me), who learned the sicilian as their first defense against 1.e4 LOL. You wouldn't believe the task I had to learn it. Seriously though, it is just way too hard to play hehe.
I was wondering what some ideas are for black the move following an open-sicilian such as that reached after 1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb4+. What move scores best vs. computer? What would you play and why?