Crush the Fried Liver Attack!!!

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Um yeah actually.

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ManganeseCalcium2610 wrote:

Um yeah actually.

And in any case, you are not at the level where the opening theory plays any role.

See your game at #9 where your opponent dropped a few pieces, and you returned the favor by blundering your Queen at move 19, and then again at the next move.

And in any case, the opening is irrelevant at any playing level if we talk about 1 min games. You can play any sort of nonsense you please, and still win.

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pfren wrote:
ManganeseCalcium2610 wrote:

Um yeah actually.

And in any case, you are not at the level where the opening theory plays any role.

See your game at #9 where your opponent dropped a few pieces, and you returned the favor by blundering your Queen at move 19, and then again at the next move.

And in any case, the opening is irrelevant at any playing level if we talk about 1 min games. You can play any sort of nonsense you please, and still win.

Bro chill. All is well that ends well.

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I eventually won that game

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This is another game in which I played black and eventually won by resignation. I did the Traxler.

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ManganeseCalcium2610 wrote:

I eventually won that game

Big whoop! You should not be proud of winning a game where you played like cr@p! When I win a tournament game, I don't automatically feel good about it. If I was lost and got lucky, sure I get the brief thrill of pulling off a miracle, but I don't go to bed that night thinking I really accomplished anything. I feel good about well played wins, like the following post from a game I played Tuesday Night (see link below), and don't go barking at me with some stupid spiel about staying on topic - I am on topic - your post talks about "in the end, winning", well, that's what I am replying to, not some garbage opening that I wouldn't be dumb enough to play 4.Ng5 as White if I did play 1.e4, which I don't, and as Black, I wouldn't be stupid enough to allow the Fried Liver as 5...Na5 is light years better than 5...Nxd5??.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/taking-down-an-ill-advised-jobava

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For me, if I win a game by chance, Im happy. And please don't suggest me when or when not to be happy. You don't have any right regarding that.

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[Site "Chess.com"] [Date "2026-01-09"] [White "chessatlantisq23"] [Black "Opponent"] [Result "*"] [TimeControl "-"] 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 Bc5 5. b4 Bb6 6. Bxf7+ Kf8 7. O-O *

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I don't think Traxler is good cz we can counter it by the Evans gambit if they retreat we can give the bishop check and make their king lose castling rights and if the accept it we can turn it into Evans!

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I really don't know why this isn't popularized and it doesn't even have a name so i think there is fault in it if there is please tell me

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chessatlantisq23 wrote:

I don't think Traxler is good cz we can counter it by the Evans gambit if they retreat we can give the bishop check and make their king lose castling rights and if the accept it we can turn it into Evans!

Trying to play something like the Evans against the Traxler is a terrible, virtually losing idea.

Good luck finding here a move for white that does not suck.

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pfren wrote:
chessatlantisq23 wrote:

I don't think Traxler is good cz we can counter it by the Evans gambit if they retreat we can give the bishop check and make their king lose castling rights and if the accept it we can turn it into Evans!

Trying to play something like the Evans against the Traxler is a terrible, virtually losing idea.

Good luck finding here a move for white that does not suck.

I have 1 move that doesn't suck for White. End the misery once and for all!

6.Resigns!! (Yes, 2 Exclams!!)

Instead, 5.Bxf7+ and 6.Bd5 busts the Traxler!

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Thank u fir ur info and I now see where I am wrong I realise that's a bad idea Sorry!

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Ya that's pretty bad but I agree with thrillerfan so I think fritz is better to counter the fried liver attack and if I remember correctly there is also a line called ulvestad and that's also pretty good which is when they take on the d pawn we attack their bishop by our b pawn

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Ohh i see ❤️

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chessatlantisq23 wrote:

Ya that's pretty bad but I agree with thrillerfan so I think fritz is better to counter the fried liver attack and if I remember correctly there is also a line called ulvestad and that's also pretty good which is when they take on the d pawn we attack their bishop by our b pawn

The Fritz is fine, the Ulvestad too (sometimes they end up to the same position).

Also 4...d5 5.exd5 Na5 6.Bb5+ and now both 6...c6 and 6...Bd7 are good.

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I've won with the traxler before, but I tried it here and lost. (I'm a beginner.) What could I have done when white went king to f1 and exd5? Before they took the bait and took the bishop with the king.

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donut_tree wrote:

I've won with the traxler before, but I tried it here and lost. (I'm a beginner.) What could I have done when white went king to f1 and exd5? Before they took the bait and took the bishop with the king.

Your 8...Bg4 is bad. Necessary was 8...Nd4 (which makes ...Bg4 a real threat) and after 9.d6!? Qxd6 10.Nf7 Qe7! Black has a good game.

But 5.Nxf7? is a bad move. White is much better after either 5.Bxf7+ or 5.d4.

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Shenco1234 wrote:

I think traxler trap is still the best against the fried liver

You cannot play the Traxler (which starts at move 4) against the Fried Liver (which starts at move 6).