Danish gambit Qe7

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elijahbanks124

I started playing the Danish gambit a few days ago and I can't seem to find a good response when black plays Qe7 after accepting the gambit entirely. What is the best response?

Yigor

I also play in the Danish gambit tournament but I wanna recall that games in progress shouldn't be discussed here. wink.png

elijahbanks124

These were bullet games over the past week, all of them are finished. I am asking because I want to find a response ahead of time if this variation comes up in later games.

Yigor

All right, do U speak about this line?

 

 

It didn't appear in my games but white should defend the e4 pawn and best moves are clearly 6. Nc3 and 6. Nd2. happy.png

yureesystem

Chigorin  played it ( Qe7) against Danish Gambit, it refute the gambit; Chigorin played it twice won convincingly. The best response to resign and don't play the Danish Gambit.

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yureesystem wrote:

Chigorin  played it ( Qe7) against Danish Gambit, it refute the gambit; Chigorin played it twice won convincingly. The best response to resign and don't play the Danish Gambit.

OP's talking about what to do when 5... Qe7. You're talking about 3... Qe7. The Danish Gambit is sound and playable. 

pawnintheirgame29

 The line that you should watch out for in the danish gambit accepted according to a video I watched is not Qe7 but the shocking d4!! sacrificing a pawn to catch up with white in development and stop pieces from getting bottled up.

 

 

yureesystem

The Danish is unsound and its only good a surprise in a chess club or tournament but not to have in your opening repertoire for regular use. 

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yureesystem wrote:

The Danish is unsound and its only good a surprise in a chess club or tournament but not to have in your opening repertoire for regular use. 

Ok, maybe not sound, but playable and fun. At which level would you say that The Danish becomes no good?

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-openings/is-the-danish-gambit-sound

tmkroll

I play this with Black in a lot of blitz games because mainline Danish Gambit is so boring. You have to see Black is threatening to win a piece with the Queen check so you block it. I believe Nc3 is best. After that Black will play c6 and either try to make d5 happen or just go d6 and trying to keep both pawns. If they play that way this is the kind of position that should make you happy. I'm not sure you have compensation for two pawns but you have quite a bit of compensation. Just get your pieces out and make threats. One plan is Ne2-g3-f5 combined with 0-0 and Re1, maybe the other Knight can even hop into d5. It will take Black a long time to untangle and one wrong move will be fatal.

yureesystem
tmkroll wrote:

I play this with Black in a lot of blitz games because mainline Danish Gambit is so boring. You have to see Black is threatening to win a piece with the Queen check so you block it. I believe Nc3 is best. After that Black will play c6 and either try to make d5 happen or just go d6 and trying to keep both pawns. If they play that way this is the kind of position that should make you happy. I'm not sure you have compensation for two pawns but you have quite a bit of compensation. Just get your pieces out and make threats. One plan is Ne2-g3-f5 combined with 0-0 and Re1, maybe the other Knight can even hop into d5. It will take Black a long time to untangle and one wrong move will be fatal.

 

 

 

Chigorin destroy two of his strong opponents with 5...Qe7, one strong player plays the Danish and tell you how unsound this gambit is. Probably good for bullet blitz but do really want to risk playing the Danish knowing there might be a w to refute. I would not take that risk. I having a lot success with Evans Gambit but one my game my opponent didn't the best and still had a good game, there are some gambit best to ignore; try the King's gambit its still sound.

tmkroll

I'm not sure what exactly you're trying do quoting me and responding that way. I imagine Chigorin did play it better than I do (care to post some of the games?) but it doesn't change anything I said.

Comeaux

Anybody else ever intend to play the Smith-Morra Gambit and come back to the game and treat it like a Danish out of habit? It really doesn't work.

Eta, and by that I mean I keep playing Bc4 instead of Nxc3. Sucks when that happens

yureesystem
ValueTown8 wrote:

I honestly get a bit annoyed hearing players talk like certain openings are a waste of their time because they became unplayable at GM level. At my level (1400-1500) and a lot higher, the Danish is perfectly playable in blitz and an absolute hoot to boot! Get your head out of your arses and start enjoying life. 😊

 

 

Of course at your level you can play any junk opening, your opponent aren't strong enough to refute it. surprise.png  When you have a lot fishes swimming in a small pond they are oblivious to the threats, its the same way when a low rated player makes a bold statement out of ignorance, they oblivious that they are wrong. fish.png 

dpnorman

3...Qe7 is a fantastic way to meet the Danish, although that seems to be a different line from the one we're talking about.