Defences to the Parham Attack

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shepi13
The_Gavinator wrote:

The thing is that shepi sits there and screams the Parham sucks, then can't find any lines that hold up against it, and gets smoked by it himself. Definition of trolling.

Every line I found held up against it. The parham doesn't necesarily suck, it's just rather bad and has no promise of an advantage. I never was "smoked" by it, rather, I smoked it, twice! Ask any good player if black was winning after 23...f5 in my second game and they will say yes. Meanwhile in my first game with whatupyodog white was never winning, no matter what move he made.

The_Gavinator
CHCL wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

Parham destroying a 2506:

http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=289187

Parham defeating a master in 5 moves:

http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=198942

It's basically undefeatable.

Can you please stop using bad examples of chess for your points.

IM's are bad examples of chess?

The_Gavinator
shepi13 wrote:
The_Gavinator wrote:

The thing is that shepi sits there and screams the Parham sucks, then can't find any lines that hold up against it, and gets smoked by it himself. Definition of trolling.

Every line I found held up against it. The parham doesn't necesarily suck, it's just rather bad and has no promise of an advantage. I never was "smoked" by it, rather, I smoked it, twice! Ask any good player if black was winning after 23...f5 in my second game and they will say yes. Meanwhile in my first game with whatupyodog white was never winning, no matter what move he made.

If every line you found held up, why did you lose?

shepi13


I will use one of your games to illustrate my point. IT IS possible to lose after getting a won position out of the opening. I lost because I BLUNDERED. Anyone with half a brain could see that black was winning or at least advantageous for every single move before 23...Rxb3. If you comment on my loss one more time I might quite possibly lose my temper worse than jetfighter did: it's not him with the problems, it's you.

 

You don't know how to talk things over like adults -

 

Example:

shepi - The parham is not a good opening because the queen is misplaced and tempos are lost, giving black at least an easy equality. Here are some lines.

Gavinator - If the parham sucks why do you lose?

 

You don't even listen to any of my input.

 

Granted, at the moment most of my input is more like:

 

shepi -

Gavinator, my loss was a blunder, one game doesn't prove anything, please listen to what I am saying now.

 

Gavinator -

No, you were pwned and worked over because your lines suck and fail to hold up.

 

 

If you continue this I might report you for a second time.

shepi13

You also claim 900s suck, well that game was worse than anything any of the 900 players posted on here. Perhaps you are the one skewing the ratings.

shepi13
2...Nc6 5
20% 20%

60%

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3.Bc4 7
14.3% 14.3% 71.4%
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3...g6 6
16.7% 16.7% 66.7%
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4.Qf3 6
16.7% 16.7% 66.7%
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4...Nf6 5
  0%      20%     80%
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5.Ne2 4
0%             25% 75%
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5...Bg7 3
    0%                  0%               100%
shepi13

The DB results seem to show that this is exactly what white wants out of the opening - the only win was a scholar's mate after 4... Nd4.

 

Engines show that black has about a -0.25 advantage, so black has the same advantage white usually starts at.

 

The lines we have given usually beat the parham, or at least equalize. I'll give one example:

 
In addition to my lines, CS has given many lines where black equalizes, and 2000+ players as well as titled players have claimed that this opening shows no promise.

 

 

There are many positional problems:

 

1) The queen is misplaced.

2) It can be easily attacked with gains of tempos

3) White has no plan.

4) In lines with h6 and g5 white's dark squared bishop is the worse piece on the board

5) In lines with Na5 black can gain the bishop pair.

etc.

 

Finally, this opening is only promoted by trolls.

 

I believe that is enough evidance to say that the parham is a bad opening.

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The_Gavinator

Lol shepi, I think you are one of the best trolls on here. Btw, if you want to use DBR:

That scores about the same as most mainline openings, 41% is actually rather high.

browni3141

@shepi: How are you trolled so easily?

shepi13

In that DB Gavi white won exactly one game more than black lol. If you combine it with my DB white loses more than he wins.

shepi13
Sungolian wrote:
ChristianSoldier007 wrote:

Oh my. Looks like shepi got mad.

he's always mad.


Not always, only when I talk to gavinator (and sometimes when I talk to Vlad)

shepi13
browni3141 wrote:

@shepi: How are you trolled so easily?

I'm not sure, I've always had a problem with it. Laughing

kco
The_Gavinator wrote:

Lol shepi, I think you are one of the best trolls on here. Btw, if you want to use DBR:

 

That scores about the same as most mainline openings, 41% is actually rather high.

haha you can't even do your maths here, 41% out of 17 games   that  only 7 games while black with 35% that 6 games ! lol "rather high" yeah yeah pull another troll.