Do certain openings make you feel slightly insulted and angry?

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SJFG

Re the title: Not really, though sometimes I feel frustrated when my opponent plays something I've been having trouble against.  I feel happy when I face something that I don't consider completely sound.

Re the Caro Kann: It's what I play right now, and I like it a lot.  It seems to suit my style well.  I consider the Sicilian, ...e5, and the Caro to be the most serious responses to 1. e4.  The French and Pirc are good, but I like to face them.  While the Caro-Kann is sometimes more positional than other openings, there are also quite a few variations that get very tactical.  I like this balance.  Also, positional does not not mean drawish.  Actually, I chose 1...c6 instead of 1...e5 because it seemed to me that 1...e5 allows White drawish lines if he wants them.

Fish_Ninja

Against the snobbish, unoriginal 1. e4?? I drop . . . 1. g5!! and laugh my head off, as I feel their fury.  Greed is a very powerful ally. 

LeEpitome

I feel slightly angry when people attempt to play the danish gambit. It's like they are playing anti-theory or something and personally attacking me. At the end of the game I always make sure to let the player know "that will teach you to give up two important pawns in the opening!! - I can always give one back at an appropriate moment to consolidate and even be better, and as black! you patzer"

end of satire.  

pawnwhacker

Do certain openings make you feel slightly insulted and angry?

 

   Good! Because when I play someone, the unhappier that they become the better. To make them squirm is all the merrier.

   Bobby Fischer:

Chess is war over the board. The object is to crush the opponent's mind.

I like the moment I break a man's ego.

I like to make them squirm.

JGambit
SJFG wrote:

Re the Caro Kann: It's what I play right now, and I like it a lot.  It seems to suit my style well.  I consider the Sicilian, ...e5, and the Caro to be the most serious responses to 1. e4.  The French and Pirc are good, but I like to face them.  While the Caro-Kann is sometimes more positional than other openings, there are also quite a few variations that get very tactical.  I like this balance.  Also, positional does not not mean drawish.  Actually, I chose 1...c6 instead of 1...e5 because it seemed to me that 1...e5 allows White drawish lines if he wants them.

this is my same opinion. I really dont think the draw is that easy to get after e4 e5 though, I feel like if white tries to draw then black takes the wheel. of course being as chess is a draw white should be easily able to draw but I see good players play e5 even when they are looking to win.

JGambit

I can get what I feel like is an advantage against 1 d5 and 1 d6

Against 1 c6 I always felt the advance is a bit of a compromise (admittedly a good one) and can't find much in the main line

Funny enough I picked up the alekhine to figure out how people get an advantge against it, turns out at my level they have no idea how, and many that try end up losing their center by force. Its to the point that if I am playing a series of blitz games I always try the alekhine at least once to see if they will decline it and give me easy games as black.

AlisonHart

Alekhine is OK because white has to overextend to get an advantage....all lines that don't begin with 2.e5 are tame and equal - all lines that begin with 2.e5 are extraordinarily dangerous for both players.

JGambit

You are right.

Against d5 I saw a video where John Bartholomew (sp) ,who happens to love the center counter, played against a GM and talked about the line used. Its not like black is busted but It was clear that it was not easy to play. The the line is one where white modestly plays d3 instead of going with d4

against d6 I dont have anything great but I always feel like white has a ultra comfortable position and while objectively drawn it seems black must walk a narrower tightrope. Isn't that the whole reason for prefering white, opponents margin for draw is a bit lower.

colinsaul

What is the OP's emotional response to the Grob?

jposthuma

I feel irritated when someone plays an uncommon opening as well, but only because I'm somewhat unfamiliar and uncomfortable with it. But that's your fault for not knowing the opening. Come back to me when you've busted the Aleckine, Scandinavian, and Caro-Cann.

Just a few caro-kann lines that aren't "boring" and "drawish".

The caro-cann can be a very exciting opening, depends on how you play it. And alot of people choose the more boring lines. And that doesn't mean there aren't exciting lines out there. 



SilentKnighte5

Some guy opened 1.f4 against me and I bounced my queen off of his skull.

mbpotts1

The Berlin Defense makes me feel homicidal.

913Glorax12

The Parham in a tournament.

IMpatzer

Guy chill relax it does not matter what opening is played. Enjoy the gsme. I shudder to think what you would have done if you saw the off the wall stuff I play

PilateBlue
joekool28 wrote:

I have always found the grob particularly distasteful. certain lines in the dutch, Alehkine's defense and the Queen's Gambit Accepted rub me the wrong way as well. Evan's gambit is a bit ridiculous to me as well. Basically any opening that says "I just want to get out of book and outplay you" bugs me.

I played queen's gambit against one of my friends and he laughed at me as he took the pawn. He had no idea what I was doing... When I took back the pawn a couple moves later he thought he'd blundered. He also laughed at 2... d6 in the sicilian in another game. Later he tried convincing me that sicilian dragon was a huge advantage for black (when he obviously had no idea what the sicilian dragon even is). I hate playing that guy...

Elubas

If your opponent plays a bad strategy against you, consider it a gift. If they want a lower chance of winning the game that's their choice. The majority of the time though inferior openings merely give you a boost; much of the game is still decided based on who, subsequently in the game, plays better.

Anyway, I understand that my opponent is doing whatever he thinks can make it easier for him to win, maybe some will try to get me out of book early, ok, that's his strategy. We'll see who wins and whoever does deserves it.

Elubas

"I personally think the french is 90% rubbish, The caro is way better in my book."

Based on what? The bad bishop? Chess is just too complicated to be judged on isolated details like that. What's more important is whether the overall strategy of one side has chances to work out. One's comments about bad bishops just won't mean anything if their center is crumbling. Most openings are fine really; there are different strategies black can try, but they all generally have merit, and ways for them to go right and wrong, etc.

fltsrymy

I hate Bird's, not because it's hard to play against, but because it's pointless.

Elubas

"I mean ok, I don't really "hate it", I do respect the openings but sometimes it feels like the person is taunting you. It's like they're saying "come at me bro", well I'm not going to be provoked I'm just going to gain space and improve my position and try to make it where they're cramped and have nothing to do."

 

Where is the problem then?

Crazychessplaya

I played a Zamoran thief in a tavern one evening, on a bet for a tankard of ale. White were my pieces. After 1.e4 c6, I expected a decent Caro-Kann, and some sturdy resistance from the rat-faced wretch. Imagine my rage, when after 2.d4, he played 2...b5! The fool! I crushed him in under twenty moves. Afghuli goat herders or even Stygian beggars have more skill.

He lost a couple of teeth in the post-mortem, and had to agree with my evaluation of his game.