Do London players understand that they are playing boring chess?

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MaskedNuisance wrote:
blueemu wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:

I guess your sense of humor is as shallow as your personalities

I worked for 20 years making TV cartoons for the international market. It's not often that I was accused of having no sense of humor.

What are your qualifications? Just asking...

Someone who tries to bring qualifications into a humor arguement obviously isn't somoene you should be asking about if something is funny

Wait a minute... someone cannot say they are a comedian then, because then they are not funny? Who knew!

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AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
blueemu wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:

I guess your sense of humor is as shallow as your personalities

I worked for 20 years making TV cartoons for the international market. It's not often that I was accused of having no sense of humor.

What are your qualifications? Just asking...

Being 10 automatically makes him funny, which is superior to your qualifications!

 

 

 

(Sarcasm don’t hurt me)

Ah, yes. You have no arguements left so you're resorting to age-shaming. 

You wouldn’t need to defend whether if it is funny if it were funny. It wasn’t. You were spamming the same 6 second video everywhere. 

and now here comes the subject change 😐

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MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
blueemu wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:

I guess your sense of humor is as shallow as your personalities

I worked for 20 years making TV cartoons for the international market. It's not often that I was accused of having no sense of humor.

What are your qualifications? Just asking...

Being 10 automatically makes him funny, which is superior to your qualifications!

 

 

 

(Sarcasm don’t hurt me)

Ah, yes. You have no arguements left so you're resorting to age-shaming. 

You wouldn’t need to defend whether if it is funny if it were funny. It wasn’t. You were spamming the same 6 second video everywhere. 

and now here comes the subject change 😐

That wasn’t a subject change... do you know what a subject is?

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bro @MaskedNuisance, just unfollow the thread, you really don't need to be defending yourself that much, we all don't care that much

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AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
blueemu wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:

I guess your sense of humor is as shallow as your personalities

I worked for 20 years making TV cartoons for the international market. It's not often that I was accused of having no sense of humor.

What are your qualifications? Just asking...

Being 10 automatically makes him funny, which is superior to your qualifications!

 

 

 

(Sarcasm don’t hurt me)

Ah, yes. You have no arguements left so you're resorting to age-shaming. 

You wouldn’t need to defend whether if it is funny if it were funny. It wasn’t. You were spamming the same 6 second video everywhere. 

and now here comes the subject change 😐

That wasn’t a subject change... do you know what a subject is?

Um, yes I do. You were talking about how I was a salty 10 y.o. and now you're talking about the joke itself.

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MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
blueemu wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:

I guess your sense of humor is as shallow as your personalities

I worked for 20 years making TV cartoons for the international market. It's not often that I was accused of having no sense of humor.

What are your qualifications? Just asking...

Being 10 automatically makes him funny, which is superior to your qualifications!

 

 

 

(Sarcasm don’t hurt me)

Ah, yes. You have no arguements left so you're resorting to age-shaming. 

You wouldn’t need to defend whether if it is funny if it were funny. It wasn’t. You were spamming the same 6 second video everywhere. 

and now here comes the subject change 😐

That wasn’t a subject change... do you know what a subject is?

Um, yes I do. You were talking about how I was a salty 10 y.o. and now you're talking about the joke itself.

No. I know you’re probably not ten. That was meant to be a joke. Was it funny? Probably not. The 10-year-old thing goes back to the original topic of a joke, what a joke is, and how your joke wasn’t funny. Nice try.

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AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
blueemu wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:

I guess your sense of humor is as shallow as your personalities

I worked for 20 years making TV cartoons for the international market. It's not often that I was accused of having no sense of humor.

What are your qualifications? Just asking...

Being 10 automatically makes him funny, which is superior to your qualifications!

 

 

 

(Sarcasm don’t hurt me)

Ah, yes. You have no arguements left so you're resorting to age-shaming. 

You wouldn’t need to defend whether if it is funny if it were funny. It wasn’t. You were spamming the same 6 second video everywhere. 

and now here comes the subject change 😐

That wasn’t a subject change... do you know what a subject is?

Um, yes I do. You were talking about how I was a salty 10 y.o. and now you're talking about the joke itself.

No. I know you’re probably not ten. That was meant to be a joke. Was it funny? Probably not. The 10-year-old thing goes back to the original topic of a joke, what a joke is, and how your joke wasn’t funny. Nice try.

You should've made that more clear when you said it. 

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MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
blueemu wrote:
MaskedNuisance wrote:

I guess your sense of humor is as shallow as your personalities

I worked for 20 years making TV cartoons for the international market. It's not often that I was accused of having no sense of humor.

What are your qualifications? Just asking...

Being 10 automatically makes him funny, which is superior to your qualifications!

 

 

 

(Sarcasm don’t hurt me)

Ah, yes. You have no arguements left so you're resorting to age-shaming. 

You wouldn’t need to defend whether if it is funny if it were funny. It wasn’t. You were spamming the same 6 second video everywhere. 

and now here comes the subject change 😐

That wasn’t a subject change... do you know what a subject is?

Um, yes I do. You were talking about how I was a salty 10 y.o. and now you're talking about the joke itself.

No. I know you’re probably not ten. That was meant to be a joke. Was it funny? Probably not. The 10-year-old thing goes back to the original topic of a joke, what a joke is, and how your joke wasn’t funny. Nice try.

You should've made that more clear when you said it. 

I wouldn’t need to. People would be able to understand that. 

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Guys calm down! This forum was created to trash talk London system not eachother

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If there's been a surge of interest in chess due to Covid, it's only natural that extremely simple openings will make a comeback, to accommodate all the beginners. Therefore, people setting themselves up as chess teachers are going to plug it. The London is of no interest at all to people who've been playing a while. It's fine as black but silly as white. It was originally an opening for black, not for white.

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Optimissed wrote:

If there's been a surge of interest in chess due to Covid, it's only natural that extremely simple openings will make a comeback, to accommodate all the beginners. Therefore, people setting themselves up as chess teachers are going to plug it. The London is of no interest at all to people who've been playing a while. It's fine as black but silly as white. It was originally an opening for black, not for white.

What was it called as black? The semi-slav?

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DaBabysSideTing wrote:
llama47 wrote:

QGD also has several major branches. Bg5 vs Bf4 for white and Be7 vs Bb4 for black.

Among many others.

yes but they're all very similar in nature. white can basically do the same things regardless of the variation, bf4 or bg5 if there's a pin, e3, be3 or bd3, 0-0, queen somewhere etc. 

QGD is extremely subtle and very complex. Probably one of the hardest openings to master, precisely because moves for both sides are similar between variations. But it's a perfectly good way for both sides to play for a win. There's even an exchange variation where white castles queenside and which can be really hair-raising.

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AunTheKnight wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

If there's been a surge of interest in chess due to Covid, it's only natural that extremely simple openings will make a comeback, to accommodate all the beginners. Therefore, people setting themselves up as chess teachers are going to plug it. The London is of no interest at all to people who've been playing a while. It's fine as black but silly as white. It was originally an opening for black, not for white.

What was it called as black? The semi-slav?

No, the London System. The idea of the London being an opening for white isn't correct. Basically, against reversed Indian systems, where white plays g3, Bg2, Nf3 and whatever else, the London setup with d5, Nf6, Bf5 and c6 should hold firm for black. Because it's bulletproof, there started to be interest in it, as a beginner's opening, for white. But it isn't a way that white can get much of an advantage, so it's usually just played if someone's done some home analysis and thinks they have a new line that might make black blunder. Or something.

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Yes, London players realize it. In fact it's kind of a cult like devotion. If u look at most London players other openings ur gonna see similarities, a dedication to out-boring their opponents. They get joy from watching their opponents squirm under the pressure, not from seeing their opponents try to wade through a myriad of chaotic complications, but from having to sit there for hours bored to death instead of playing "real" chess. If they play it long enough u can pick em out at tournaments without even seeing their games. They got that London player look. It's a London player aura. Go ahead & try it out, next time ur at a tournament see if u can spot the London players out in the hall or skittles room. 

And just so y'all know, I like the London.  Hahahahaha. I got that London player look too. Flip flops, uncombed hair, 5 days of razor stubble, tropical looking shirt & cut off jean shorts. If u see somebody like that it's definitely a London player. Got that hungover look from being too lazy to study a real opening so u hang out at the hotel bar til they tell u it's closing. Then u get up & go play the London ur next round. Even if ur black u try to copy the same principles & setup. That's the London player look if ever there was one. 

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Optimissed wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

If there's been a surge of interest in chess due to Covid, it's only natural that extremely simple openings will make a comeback, to accommodate all the beginners. Therefore, people setting themselves up as chess teachers are going to plug it. The London is of no interest at all to people who've been playing a while. It's fine as black but silly as white. It was originally an opening for black, not for white.

What was it called as black? The semi-slav?

No, the London System. The idea of the London being an opening for white isn't correct. Basically, against reversed Indian systems, where white plays g3, Bg2, Nf3 and whatever else, the London setup with d5, Nf6, Bf5 and c6 should hold firm for black. Because it's bulletproof, there started to be interest in it, as a beginner's opening, for white. But it isn't a way that white can get much of an advantage, so it's usually just played if someone's done some home analysis and thinks they have a new line that might make black blunder. Or something.

Everything I find on something like the London for black always leads to the Slav or Semi-Slav. Could you give me some resources on it, sir/ma'am?

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DreamscapeHorizons wrote:

Yes, London players realize it. In fact it's kind of a cult like devotion. If u look at most London players other openings ur gonna see similarities, a dedication to out-boring their opponents. They get joy from watching their opponents squirm under the pressure, not from seeing their opponents try to wade through a myriad of chaotic complications, but from having to sit there for hours bored to death instead of playing "real" chess. If they play it long enough u can pick em out at tournaments without even seeing their games. They got that London player look. It's a London player aura. Go ahead & try it out, next time ur at a tournament see if u can spot the London players out in the hall or skittles room. 

And just so y'all know, I like the London.  Hahahahaha. I got that London player look too. Flip flops, uncombed hair, 5 days of razor stubble, & tropical looking shirt & cut of jean shorts. Got that hungover look from being too lazy to study a real opening so u hang out at the hotel bar til they tell u it's closing. Then u get up & go play the London ur next round. Even if ur black u try to copy the same principles & setup. That's the London player look if ever there was one. 

Excatly what I suspected

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AunTheKnight wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
AunTheKnight wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

If there's been a surge of interest in chess due to Covid, it's only natural that extremely simple openings will make a comeback, to accommodate all the beginners. Therefore, people setting themselves up as chess teachers are going to plug it. The London is of no interest at all to people who've been playing a while. It's fine as black but silly as white. It was originally an opening for black, not for white.

What was it called as black? The semi-slav?

No, the London System. The idea of the London being an opening for white isn't correct. Basically, against reversed Indian systems, where white plays g3, Bg2, Nf3 and whatever else, the London setup with d5, Nf6, Bf5 and c6 should hold firm for black. Because it's bulletproof, there started to be interest in it, as a beginner's opening, for white. But it isn't a way that white can get much of an advantage, so it's usually just played if someone's done some home analysis and thinks they have a new line that might make black blunder. Or something.

Everything I find on something like the London for black always leads to the Slav or Semi-Slav. Could you give me some resources on it, sir/ma'am?

Not a semi slav. The bishop is blocked by the pawn chain and not developed in this opening. The slav however could be something that looks like a london with the black pieces if you develop the bishop to f5.

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The above game was just finished recently. I played the London as black. I was winning, I think, at one time. My final move was a losing blunder but my opponent offered a draw which I took very happily, because I couldn't see a win any more.

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Chuck639 wrote:

Don’t get me started.

I get it that it is quick and easy to learn but it’s just not my cup of tea.

Are there players who play the London exclusively? 

Yes, yes there are, indeed players who play the London exclusively. I am one of them. And to acknowledge the inquiry of "Do London players understand they are playing boring chess?" - No, no we don't. We aren't nor physically, nor mentally able to grasp, just what is so sterile about the London to other individuals. If we do, then we are not truly London players. It's just how it is. And there is no amending that.