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PaladinIsBack192

The Dragon is a good opening although it is called the  Sicilian Dragon not Dragon Defence

And check ur books dude!!!!!!! 12. ... Nxc4 wins a piece lol! 

RobertKaucher
richie_and_oprah wrote:

Agreed and understood. 

 

Just meant that in my opinion the offered game is not reason enough to abandon the Yugoslav.


 Yes, you are 100% correct. While I do not play it myself, I prefer the Scheveningen, I respect it. I just don't want anyone to think White is ok in the line given in message 1 of this thread.

KillaBeez

The Dragon is an incredibly manly opening.  But it is so fun to play.  It's kind of like the Muzio Gambit.  You have no idea what's going on but neither does your opponent!

DanielleAvocado
bondiggity wrote:

 

 

Actually 11. Kb1 is the real stinker of a move.


Like you're sucha BAKA! And a shenjingbing and a moncthandni

DanielleAvocado

And donkei

DanielleAvocado
PaladinIsBack192 wrote:

The Dragon is a good opening although it is called the  Sicilian Dragon not Dragon Defence

And check ur books dude!!!!!!! 12. ... Nxc4 wins a piece lol! 


Actually, It is not Sicilian Dragon!??? DUDE!  It actually is called Dragon Defense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DanielleAvocado
KillaBeez wrote:

The Dragon is an incredibly manly opening.  But it is so fun to play.  It's kind of like the Muzio Gambit.  You have no idea what's going on but neither does your opponent!


Funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bondiggity
peachter wrote:
bondiggity wrote:

 

 

Actually 11. Kb1 is the real stinker of a move.


Like you're sucha BAKA! And a shenjingbing and a moncthandni


Take your meds. 

RobertKaucher

He uses multiple exclamation points. Clearly our arguments are invalid.

KillaBeez

Seriously, take your tranquilizers.

DanielleAvocado
RobertKaucher wrote:
erikido23 wrote:
peachter wrote:

wrong! look at a real opening book!


 lol, look at a real players games...if black takes the bishop they are attacking the queen and the bishop. 

 So they win a piece for free and exchange off the dark square bishops.  Game over.  -/+

 

 

On second thought don't look at a real players games....They won't hang the bishop


 Peachter, might I suggest a little humility before you throw the attitude? White hung the bishop, plain and simple.

 


Well your attitude have a problem too!!!!!

mdnssmstr7777

peachter is in the same class as me just know how to beat the dragon and you beat him....simple....his tutor told him to ALWAYS play dragon....and thats true.so just make sure your dragon is good

mdnssmstr7777

wtfpeachter srslythe bishop was hanging and THATS WHT YOU TOLD US ALL U @$$

DanielleAvocado
mdnssmstr7777 wrote:

peachter is in the same class as me just know how to beat the dragon and you beat him....simple....his tutor told him to ALWAYS play dragon....and thats true.so just make sure your dragon is good


thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stuart75
ericmittens wrote:

The dragon is an incredibly manly opening.

That is all.


I agree...LOL

Peachter posted this topic, so one would expect that he wanted some feedback from other players...or did he just want everyone to blow smoke up his arse?

KillaBeez

The Dragon looks like it is refuted.

ericmittens

You're refuted

KillaBeez

Yeah, I looked on chesspub and found the answer I was looking for.  I had cooked up the response myself independently, but missed an important follow up.  Long live the Dragon!

MapleDanish
Gonnosuke wrote:
KillaBeez wrote:

The Dragon looks like it is refuted.


Someone should tell Magnus Carlsen before it's too late....

They've been talking about a refutation of the Dragon for decades and yet somehow it just won't die!  Check out the Bjerring variation or go to the Dragon forum at chesspub and read through some of the latest analysis by bragesjo et. al.  The Dragon is alive and well.  If anything, it's white that's seeking new answers.


Ivanchuk played like a moron against Carlsens dragon in their last rapid and still scored reasonably well :P. 

But honestly, the Dragon is probably fine but it was WAY overrated for a time.  I personally see it as something like the French Winawer... white should keep a small edge... but good luck :P.

MapleDanish

In KillaBeez defence... don't assume a line isn't refuted just because you don't know the refutation.  I know what he's talking about and it's relatively convincing!