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Avatar of torrubirubi

I would like to know your experience with 1. d4 e6 with Black trying to transpose to the French. I think I can cut a lot of learning with this approach, right? I have good books on 1.d4 d5, however I don’t find the time to learn all the lines, the stuff is endless. I am already learning the French since a while, so the „only“ thing I need is to learn the Dutch if white doesn’t play 1.d4 e6 2. e4.

Thanks.

Avatar of OldPatzerMike

If you play the French, 1. d4 e6 is a good move order. Botvinnik used to use it in his French/Dutch days and Neil McDonald recommends it in “Starting Out: the Dutch Defence”.

 If White continues with 2. c4, you’re not committed to the Dutch. With 2...d5, you transpose to the QGD and by playing 2...Nf6 you keep other options open, such as the Nimzo/QID/Bogo complex or the Benoni.

 If you do want to play the Dutch, 1...e6 has the advantage of avoiding some sidelines. It does, however, discourage use of the Leningrad, so you’ll be playing the Classical or the Stonewall.

Avatar of TwoMove

It's perfectly good. Can also play 2c4 Bb4ch going into Dutch type of positions with f5 later, or BogoIndian/Nimzo type positions if avoid f5. If white plays 2Nf3 or 2Bf4 can consider playing c5. 

Avatar of torrubirubi

Thanks guys.  I have a chessable book by Simon William, and as far as I know he also play the French, beginning 1.d4 e6. I should  check his games to see the kind of games I will get.

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OldPatzerMike schrieb:

If you play the French, 1. d4 e6 is a good move order. Botvinnik used to use it in his French/Dutch days and Neil McDonald recommends it in “Starting Out: the Dutch Defence”.

 If White continues with 2. c4, you’re not committed to the Dutch. With 2...d5, you transpose to the QGD and by playing 2...Nf6 you keep other options open, such as the Nimzo/QID/Bogo complex or the Benoni.

 If you do want to play the Dutch, 1...e6 has the advantage of avoiding some sidelines. It does, however, discourage use of the Leningrad, so you’ll be playing the Classical or the Stonewall.

Thanks, I have

Avatar of torrubirubi
I have decided not to try the Dutch and invest the time needed to learn the solid QGD.