e4 Vs d4

krutarth18

Which is better and why..??

krutarth18
trophies.pngkrutarth18 wrote:

Which is better e4/d4.?

 

kindaspongey

TINSTAABO

"There is no such thing as a 'best opening.' Each player should choose an opening that attracts him. Some players are looking for a gambit as White, others for Black gambits. Many players that are starting out (or have bad memories) want to avoid mainstream systems, others want dynamic openings, and others want calm positional pathways. It’s all about personal taste and personal need.
For example, if you feel you’re poor at tactics you can choose a quiet positional opening (trying to hide from your weakness and just play chess), or seek more dynamic openings that engender lots of tactics and sacrifices (this might lead to more losses but, over time, will improve your tactical skills and make you stronger)." - IM Jeremy Silman (January 28, 2016)

https://www.chess.com/article/view/opening-questions-and-a-dream-mate

The March 2018 issue of Chess lists the top twenty openings compiled from a list of 2341 January games where both players were rated over 2400 Elo. One can not take position on this list too seriously because it is greatly influenced by how the openings are grouped. For example, all the Retis are grouped together, while English is separated into 1...c5, 1...e5, etc. Nevertheless, for what it is worth, some of the list entries are: 173 Retis, 101 King's Indians, 97 Caro-Kanns, 85 Nimzo-Indians, 84 declined Queen's Gambits, 61 Najdorf Sicilians, 60 1...e6 Englishes, 59 Slavs, 55 1...c5 Englishes, 52 Closed Ruy Lopezes, 47 Kan Sicilians, 46 Tarrasch Frenches, 46 Catalans, 44 1...e5 Englishes, 40 1...Nf6 Englishes, and 39 Taimanov Sicilians.

"... A typical way of choosing an opening repertoire is to copy the openings used by a player one admires. ... However, what is good at world-championship level is not always the best choice at lower levels of play, and it is often a good idea to choose a 'model' who is nearer your own playing strength. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)

"... For players with very limited experience, I recommend using openings in which the play can be clarified at an early stage, often with a degree of simplification. To accomplish this safely will take a little study, because you will have to get used to playing wiith open lines for both sides' pieces, but you can't eliminate risk entirely in the opening anyway. ... teachers all over the world suggest that inexperienced players begin with 1 e4. ... You will undoubtedly see the reply 1 ... e5 most often when playing at or near a beginner's level, ... After 2 Nf3, 2 ... Nc6 will occur in the bulk of your games. ... I recommend taking up the classical and instructive move 3 Bc4 at an early stage. Then, against 3 ... Bc5, it's thematic to try to establish the ideal centre by 4 c3 and 5 d4; after that, things can get complicated enough that you need to take a look at some theory and learn the basics; ... Of course, you can also play 1 d4 ... A solid and more-or-less universal set-up is 2 Nf3 and 3 Bf4, followed in most cases by 4 e3, 5 Be2 and 6 0-0. I'd rather see my students fight their way through open positions instead; however, if you're not getting out of the opening alive after 1 e4, this method of playing 1 d4 deserves consideration. ... a commonly suggested 'easy' repertoire for White with 1 Nf3 and the King's indian Attack ... doesn't lead to an open game or one with a clear plan for White. Furthermore, it encourages mechanical play. Similarly, teachers sometimes recommend the Colle System ..., which can also be played too automatically, and usually doesn't lead to an open position. For true beginners, the King's Indian Attack and Colle System have the benefit of offering a safe position that nearly guarantees passage to some kind of playable middlegame; they may be a reasonable alternative if other openings are too intimidating. But having gained even a small amount of experience, you really should switch to more open and less automatic play." - IM John Watson in a section of his 2010 book, Mastering the Chess Openings, Volume 4

BobbyTalparov

The best opening is the one that has a tendency to lead to positions you enjoy playing. So, figure out what you like to play and you will have your answer. Or, you can just play 1. Nf3 (since Nf3 is played in about 95% of white's openings, it gives you a lot of flexibility)

drmrboss

Looks like subjective. Let me give you opening choice by three chess experts.

1. Bobby Fisher prefer e4.

2. Most 3300+ programs prefer d4.

3. A man claimed to be 3500+  (Lyudmil) prefer c4. (1. c4, 2.Nc3.3.e4 is the best opening for white).

Being an amateur, simply I dont know!!

IMBacon
krutarth18 wrote:

Which is better and why..??

At your level, it doesnt matter.

MickinMD

Bobby Fischer preferred 1 e4, though he played 1 c4 in some of his games in the World Championship match with Boris Spassky in 1972.

I used to play 1 e4 exclusively and taught the high school team I coached to do the same because I think there are more closed positions where it's harder to see tactics and combinations than in 1 e4 openings.

Only in the past year have I begun to play 1 d4 - the London System - because it's often the same basic setup as the Slav or Caro-Kann, my favorite Black Defenses, but as White so you have a move in hand.

I'm only 2W 2L with 1 d4 and, during the same time, with 1 e4 I'm 13W 1D 7L.

That doesn't mean 1 d4 is not as good as 1 e4, it just means I'm not as familiar with it.

I just played 1 d4 in a daily match game, because I want to explore it some more: exploring new things is more fun to me than playing the same moves game after game.

Yigor

1. d4 is clearly better! grin.png The reason is simple: there is no counter-attacking system as good as Sicilianblitz.png Though, sorry to inform U, but for players with tiny ratings (below Elo 3000) it doesn't matter. tongue.png

zombiemaster22

i love d4, i think developing your pieces is way way easier. 

e4 escalates very quickly and i dont quite like that uneasiness that i get with e4  

 

i only play e4 when doing the queen wayward attack which is kinda fun.

BobbyTalparov
Yigor wrote:

1. d4 is clearly better!  The reason is simple: there is no counter-attacking system as good as Sicilian.  Though, sorry to inform U, but for players with tiny ratings (below Elo 3000) it doesn't matter. 

*cough* The King's Indian Defense *cough*

Yigor
BobbyTalparov wrote:
Yigor wrote:

1. d4 is clearly better!  The reason is simple: there is no counter-attacking system as good as Sicilian.  Though, sorry to inform U, but for players with tiny ratings (below Elo 3000) it doesn't matter. 

*cough* The King's Indian Defense *cough*

 

Your coughing shows that the suggestion is rhetorical and U know very well that it's not as good as Sicilianwink.png No kidding, KID is kinda cheesy, calling it a "counter-attack" would be an exaggeration. tongue.png

BobbyTalparov
Yigor wrote: 

Your coughing shows that the suggestion is rhetorical and U know very well that it's not as good as Sicilian.  No kidding, KID is kinda cheesy, calling it a "counter-attack" would be an exaggeration. 

Yes, when one of the main lines of a defense involves throwing everything (including the kitchen sink) at attacking the king, who would call that a "counter-attacking" defense?

krutarth18

 Though d4 may lead to victory at times , it is frequently played by people with less tactical knowledge

and converts the game into a closed one..

e4 is though more aggresive and i personally like it,but playing against d4 {if you'r black} is not hard..white when plays d4 and gets a good center , The center is not lasting in the hands of white longer because black has some nasty atacks  in all the opeanings against d4, and if u are tactically good , it is all and all going to be good for u indeeed. Though d4  has many variatioms and takes  lot of time to learn for white and balck , opeanings like kings indian respond to every variation in a nice way...i personally prefer e4 as it is solid , has many attacks , aggresive, opean game, tactical game ; opeaning , maiddle game, amazing endgame.

 

 

krutarth18
FishEyedFools wrote:
krutarth18 wrote:

Which is better and why..??

At your level, it doesnt matter.

You are right ...it does not matter at high levels.,black has an equal play against  BOTH E4 and D4(king's Indian and lot more) ..what matters is just good play by both sides that is seen frequently at my level...

 

Never forget ...if ur opponent makes good moves it is OK to loose? I don't agree!

Fight back ..WIN OR LEARN 

This is the thought at high levels .... I made this article to support beginers for small opeaning advantage , anyways play , learn , enjoy!!!

 

 

 

Regards

Waredude
I prefer 1.e4, but it is really about preference!
krutarth18
Waredude wrote:
I prefer 1.e4, but it is really about preference!

Absolutely correct!👍

farmer2013

I prefer c4, but it usually transposes into a d4 line.

MathWizKidA
farmer2013 wrote:

I prefer c4, but it usually transposes into a d4 line.

I don't play 1. e4 or 1. d4 either, I play something you would never believe. Try to guess! wink.png