@ajian,
The first diagram shows the Englund-gambit. It can sometimes be tough to meet in a rapid game.
The second diagram shows the beginning of the Scandinavian. My suggestion is to try out : 1.e5 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 (not Qxd5)
e4 vs d4
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pelly13 wrote:
@ajian,
The first diagram shows the Englund-gambit. It can sometimes be tough to meet in a rapid game.
The second diagram shows the beginning of the Scandinavian. My suggestion is to try out : 1.e5 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 (not Qxd5)
e4 and d4 don't make a difference in rapid. we're taliking otb tourneys
my record against e4 is a lot better than against d4, and i think this is the case with the majority of players too. I also have better winning percentages with d4.
Sep 21, 2013
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ajian schreef:
my record against e4 is a lot better than against d4, and i think this is the case with the majority of players too. I also have better winning percentages with d4.
Actually,my records against both 1.e4 and 1.d4 are about the same. So I think it's a little presumptious to assume that the majority of players share your experiences. How do you know they do ?
It looks like you already made up your mind . You believe/feel that 1.d4 is the better of the 2 options. So the title of this thread should be : " I believe 1.d4 is better than 1.e4. What do you think ? "
aijan come join this tournament and show us how good you are with 1. d4: http://www.chess.com/tournament/nimzo-indian-1600
pelly13 if you're interested even though you're unrated I will let you in.
Sep 21, 2013
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blumzovich schreef:
aijan come join this tournament and show us how good you are with 1. d4: http://www.chess.com/tournament/nimzo-indian-1600
pelly13 if you're interested even though you're unrated I will let you in.
Blum : I would love to give it a try , but this will have to be after the weekend. I'm currently baby-sitting my grand-children, a labrador and two cats. I will contact you later .
Sep 21, 2013
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#28
Why do I click on these stupid topics? Play what move you like, e4 and d4 are both great moves.
pelly13 wrote:
So poor Bobby Fischer played the wrong move all of his career.
And Kasparov?
pelly13 wrote:
So poor Bobby Fischer played the wrong move all of his career.
Bobby fischer's era was not recent
ajian wrote:
btw if you look in all the good databases it will show better results for d4 than for e4. this is because it is much easier to secure an advantage with d4.
That depends on your query criteria. Lookingat all 2200+, 2300+, and 2400+ games d4 is marginally better by about one percent but this decreases. Looking at games 2700+ e4 is marginally better by about a percent. If the varience in outcome is witin a couple percent from the master to world class levels then any difference between the two first opening moves e4 and d4 in securing an advantage is negligable. I could isolate the set of 2700+ vs 2700+ games and say e4 is better statistically but that's just as misleading as taking the set of games 2200+ vs 2200+ games and saying d4 is better because the difference is so minute.
Sep 23, 2013
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@Ron-Weasley : I fully agree with you because you show the logics.
I think Ajian cannot use his all-good-database-says argument to suggest that the majority of players share his opinion and/or experience .He doesn't have the right to draw such a conclusion from the database.
Not because of me , but because the statistical-facts as Ron showed us. They seem to say that the difference between the two moves is negligable , too minute to be statistically meaningfull.
You cannot use these database statistical facts anyway. They tell you what scored better or worse , but it doesn't tell you how people's feelings or opinions were about the opening they choose .
@Ajian Quate #35: You said Fischer didn't count because it was not recent .
Well , I reread all of your Quotes before you said that , but I couldn't find you mentioning that your theory is (even more) limited to make sence for only a specific era in time.
There are things like facts and opinions and I believe Ajian sometimes mixes them up a little.
You know, when i was younger, alot of my more experienced chess friends would say to me,
"Everybody starts out playing e4 in the beginning because it leads to many open, intense, fighting positions from the word go...
But as time passes, as your prowess grows and you become more experienced...most will undoubtedly become d4 players for it's strategical, postionally-based, solid positions."
of course it's not factual, just their observations. Being older now, i kinda get what they meant.
e4 best by test
bobby fischer
Heh. "Best by test" was Fischer's thing. Hell, he could play Larsen's opening and win (3 times). The Exchange Variation in the Ruy Lopez, KIA vs the French (and certain lines in the e6 Sicilians), Two Knights for the Caro-Kann, Fischer Attack (some say Sozin-pfft) vs d6 Sicilians...can anyone honestly play any of those lines w/ as much success as the Man did? C'mon man. Heh.
Isn't at all ironic that Carlsen plays e4 in Blitz, but plays d4 exclusively in Classical? Makes one think....
btw if you look in all the good databases it will show better results for d4 than for e4. this is because it is much easier to secure an advantage with d4.