rather optimistic, don't you think? That's basically the position that all classical white openings hope to achieve, and all classical black openings hope to prevent.
e4/Nc3/Nf3/d4
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That is what i thought... I thought i would make sense to see if there are any threats though....
Any threats concerning . . . what? Typically 1.e4 gets a response of 1...c5 or 1...e5, both of which prevent d4 (or at least, keeping d4). But 2.Nc3 and 3.Nf3 is usually good (if likely to be boring). You can look into the Halloween gambit if you want to spice things up.
Well if white can maintain these 4 moves without dropping, then he usually is doing quite fine.
Apr 15, 2013
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It's pretty great as long as Black doesn't make any moves meanwhile.
JamieKowalski wrote:
It's pretty great as long as Black doesn't make any moves meanwhile.
yeahhh...
The most reasonable opening this happens in is the probably the Pirc defense. Black freely lets white take the center.
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nc3
May 20, 2013
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Randomemory wrote:
The most reasonable opening this happens in is the probably the Pirc defense. Black freely lets white take the center.
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Nc3
White played the same 3rd and 4th...
I don't like 4.Nf3 there, would rather play 4.Be3 or 4.Bg5
Apr 13, 2016
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#12
lol go and get admission in chess university..
you need to learn from start :)
What is the point of reopening a 12 year old topic? Just to spam in some AI-generated nonsense?
5 hrs ago
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#14
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Yeah - A Few things:
Post #14 - Was Nice Response
Post #15 - Had Errors
Post #16 - Had Errors
Post # 17 - No one cares
Post # 18 - Nice Video, but completely irrelevant
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As far as this Thread goes, The OP Original Question was never Answered!
The Answer to the Question was Simple:
“Depends on what Black does!”
The moves White does can be very good or they can be very bad.
All of which depends on how Black plays.
2 Examples to showcase my point
White moves are completely fine in the above position. We can even call them Perfect!
In Fact, Millions of chess games have reached the above position!
The above position is totally trash!
Black should have lost his Queen, but White continued with his Auto Pilot moves.
Now, Black is up a Rook - Totally Winning!
Perfect examples of how White 4 moves regardless of what Black plays can be Completely Brilliant or Utterly Terrible.
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In the end, We circle back to what I said!
White 4 moves can be Good or Bad - All of which depends upon Black.
2 hrs ago
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#16
9thEagle wrote:
Any threats concerning . . . what? Typically gets a response of 1...c5 or 1...e5, both of which prevent d4 (or at least, keeping d4). But 2.Nc3 and 3.Nf3 is usually good (if likely to be boring). You can look into the Halloween gambit if you want to spice things up.
The phrase "Any threats concerning . . . what?" is a common setup in chess openings. Typically, when white plays 1. e4, black responds with either 1...c5 (the Sicilian Defense) or 1...e5 (the Open Game), both of which aim to control the center and prevent white from playing d4. White often follows with 2. Nc3 and 3. Nf3, which is a solid, albeit sometimes considered dull, approach. If white is looking for a more aggressive option, they could consider the Halloween Gambit.
2 hrs ago
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#17
Rosechess67 wrote:
Good Opening or not?
The opening sequence 1. e4 Nc3 Nf3 d4 is not a standard, well-regarded opening in chess. While individual moves like 1. e4 and 1. d4 are popular, the specific sequence is considered somewhat awkward and less optimal. It can lead to a variety of transpositions, but it doesn't have a clear, established plan or advantage for White.
Explanation:
1. e4:
This is a very common and strong opening move, immediately claiming the center and developing a piece.
1... Nc3:
While not inherently bad, Nc3 is not the most natural development for White after 1. e4. It can lead to the Vienna Game, which can be solid but doesn't offer White a clear advantage.
2. Nf3:
This is a standard developing move, but after 1. e4 Nc3, it can lead to various transpositions, such as the Four Knights Game.
3. d4:
This is a common move in various openings, but after the previous moves, it might not be the most effective way to develop White's pieces. It can lead to the Scotch Game, which has been analyzed extensively.
Black's Response:
Black has numerous reasonable replies to these moves, making it difficult for White to maintain a significant advantage.
Why it's not ideal:
Loss of Tempo:
Developing the Knight to c3 before d4 can be considered a loss of tempo, especially if Black doesn't play into the anticipated lines.
Lack of Flexibility:
White's options are somewhat limited after Nc3, and it might not lead to the most dynamic or advantageous positions.
Black's Counterplay:
Black has many opportunities to challenge White's center and develop their pieces effectively.
Alternatives:
White could have played 2. Nf3, followed by 3. d4, which is a more standard approach in the Scotch Game.
White could have played 2. d4, leading to the Scotch Game.
Alternatively, White could have chosen to develop their pieces in other ways, depending on Black's response.
In conclusion, while the moves are not illegal or terrible, the sequence 1. e4 Nc3 Nf3 d4 is not a highly recommended opening for White due to its lack of clear plan and potential for Black to equalize the position relatively easily..
Good Opening or not?