Early move order in London system

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kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

... Good luck! with the services you freely? provide.

Nobody is paying me.

kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

... Your belief is not objective in what is appropriate for the OP to read but in what you feel for your self is best to provide as a help. ...

Sometimes people try to help each other with out know how or because they think that they know!

In which category you belong?

I believe that I am making a good effort at being helpful. I have no belief about having achieved the "best" possible help or "know"ing that I have been helpful.

Bishop_g5

Between us, I have to admit that you don't do a hell of a job worth compensation, it's just provocative silly to accept that someone merchandise blindly chess related products in use of inappropriate reasons with out any profit!

We live in difficult times. Everything must pay off even if it's not well doing...

Bishop_g5

kindaspongey wrote:

Bishop_g5 wrote:

... Your belief is not objective in what is appropriate for the OP to read but in what you feel for your self is best to provide as a help. ...

I believe that I am making a good effort at being helpful. I have no belief about having achieved the "best" possible help.

No! You are making a good effort presenting your self being helpful which is totally different from being actually helpful. Although... I give you a plus recognize that you have room for improvement. I hope that not includes to double up the list of study material....

Sumiye

This is getting silly. The only one out of line here is you Bishop

Bishop_g5

Sumiye wrote:

This is getting silly. The only one out of line here is you Bishop

I don't think so...but I understand that it's silly to continue, since this discussion has tired all of us! So in essence I agree with you, I crossed the line paying attention.

kindaspongey
 kindaspongey wrote:

... "... In games between novice chess players, color is not the most important factor, but acquired knowledge is crucial. Without the basics of opening play it is easy to fail, and that's why openings must be learned. ..." - Journey to the Chess Kingdom by Yuri Averbakh and Mikhail Beilin

    

 

kindaspongey wrote:

... This is what I found (in the beginning of Averbakh's Chess Endings Essential Knowledge):

"... the study of the simplest endings should precede the analysis of the openings and the middlegame." ...

   

 

jengaias wrote:

... when Averbakh talks about opening knowledge he assumes that the student knows the basic endings.That is the huge detail you constantly omit.

In the quote that I have seen, he referred to "the simplest" endings. Anyway, Journey to the Chess Kingdom is a book that covers such things as how the rook moves. It does not seem to me to be likely that there was any assumption that the reader had read anything about endings before starting on the Journey. In the Journey book itself, before the "openings must be learned" passage, there is a 24 page chapter about various endgame positions. I am not sure why that is important to mention here, but there it is.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... that guy pretends that he has no idea that publishing companies only care to sell and they don't hesitate to lie  or create worthless products.

     Oh no , they are angels trying to educate chessplayers.

There is quite a lot of reviewing going on. I would think that the desire to sell would provide some motivation to avoid being seen as a publisher of worthless products.

Bishop_g5

Great! Now he became a sales advisor...

It's time to wear my paresute and jump the building! Jengaias I am coming...( tracking off )

kindaspongey
Bishop_g5 wrote:

Great! Now he became a sales advisor... ...

My post was to provide my reaction to a jengaias post. I doubt that the post #198 comments would be news to companies involved in selling chess stuff.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

You really can't be serious.
Have you seen how many trash products are in music?
Britney Spears was presented as the new music phenomenon just some years ago.
Christina Aguilera a few years later.
Was that good music in your opinion?
In many sites Harry Potter is presented as the best book(s) of the last decade.
Is this good literature in your opinion?
There are trash products all over the place and you see nothing? ...

I think music and literature are somewhat more subjective than chess instruction.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... Have you seen any GM talking bad about the Lakdawala's books?Are they are all good?
Have you seen any GM talking bad about Andrew's Martin's DVDs?Are they are all good? ...

Perhaps we should accept the jengaias opinion. Perhaps not.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

     ... Publishing companies decide what is good and what is bad and all they others obey.

       Those that don't obey(good trainers in chess clubs)are never heard because they don't care. ...

No authority cares about this great power of the publishing companies?

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... Have you ever met a good trainer? ...

No, but I have read some writings by Dvoretsky, Yusupov, and so on.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... I have [met a good trainer] and he told me that at least 8 out of 10 books published today are worthless.Of course he will be  never allowed to write a review in chesscafe.That is how publishing companies work. ...

You think publishing companies have the power to keep us from seeing such opinions from authorities? Wouldn't there be an advantage for one company to call attention to the worthless product of another?

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... You have chesscafe's reviews in high esteem. ...

Never said that. I think they can be helpful.

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... Do you even know what's the game they play?They sell books with discount , do you know that?Books and DVDs of specific companies(Chessbase ,newinchess) .That doesn't make you think that maybe their reviews are not the most objective? ...

The reviewers have names like FM Carsten Hansen. Do you want to say anything about him specifically?

triggerlips

Actually to take my troll hat off for a second, I actually find the list of book reviews quite interesting.  Presumably people go to a thread about a particular opening because they are interested in it. A handy list of links to that opening can hardly be a bad thing, whatever the motive

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... When was the last time you saw a bad review for a newinchess or chessbase product?Because I haven't  seen any.Not even one.
If you really would like to help and if you really had no financial interest in this , wouldn't you do some searching?Have you?Of course not.As I said , you couldn't care less. ...

"... most players rated more than 1700-1800 will not find much of interest in [the 2007 book, Chess Opening Essentials - Volume 1: The Complete 1. e4 by Djuric, Komarov, and Pantaleoni], while those rated below will find it flawed, full of holes, and superficial. I really cannot think of a group who could benefit very much from reading this book."

kindaspongey
jengaias wrote:

... By the way I never saw in your posts any review for books written  by  great   players like Keres , Bronstein , Tal , Kasparov , Pachman , Petrosian .Where the hell are the reviews of their books?You say you care , you say you want to inform.Yet the books of these great authors are always absent. ...

 "... Just because a book contains lots of information that you don’t know, it doesn’t necessarily mean that it will be extremely helpful in making you better at this point in your chess development. ..." - Dan Heisman (2001)