Englund's Gambit or Budapest defense?

I want to play open, tactical position against d4 players, with lot's of cheap tricks.

I also want to maximize my chances to play this position (which can come from both) occasionally:

Or any opening where white might be tempted to play d5, in order to respond c6 at some point. According to a Table base of non necessarily master games, I have much more chances with the Budapest).

Both opening feature decent mating trap, which I like. In Englund's gambit Black can nearly win his pawn back by force:

And even if white has more than enough compensation, he may feel out of his comfort zone and fail to use the wonderful initiative and position he is given.

I've been surprised to see that Budapest defense is actually not a gambit, and even the there is a mate trap, The most obvious line leads to a tradefest and is maybe too drawish:

Or maybe it's not drawish, but it's move ten and three minors are down and no real developpement has been made, it's not really the kind of game I like. Another important point is that White has easy to find "sideline" to prove he has a huge advantage.

So given that I don't care much about losing more than winning but want funny games and fighting chances, which one do you recommend?

My hope-chess detector exploded.

I disagree with you on that. The systems are just different. Bf4 allows the systems with g5 where white theoretically might hold the advantage but the board is a complete mess something the Budapest player likes. The Nf3 system might give theoretically a smaller advantage but the position is much easier to play.  Blacks best choice (theoretically) is to play d6 and be forced in a passive position (with d6 vs d4/c4). Generally these positions (passively defend a slightly worse position) is something Budapest players hate and d4 players love. You often see black playing sub optimal systems with a5 (based on the rooklift Ra6/h6) but if white knows this line it is easy to defend against and his advantage is actually bigger than in the Bf4 lines.   

White can sidestep the Budapest with 2. Nf3, but you can then try to aim for a Benoni, as you are looking for an active opening as black. May be better to try playing the Benoni instead.

White can transpose to a different opening with 2. e4 after black plays 1...e5

White can spank Black with 4.Nf3

I just always thought it was easier to play with Bf4 so that there's no a5-Ra6-Rh6 stuff since the bishop controls h2/g3

I just always thought it was easier to open the book and study it so you are not afraid of a5-Ra6-Rh6 cheapos.

As i said before. The rooklift is a dangerous plan where white has to know what to do. If he does not know black will get a good attack. If he does know it (and the line is not that complex) white will be better.

As I said before, there is a freaking book written on 4.Nf3, no excuses not to play that line if you are a serious 1.d4 player.

And what does this book say, mighty one?

You're going to get destroyed by anyone that has decent preparation against the Englund.  At least the Budapest leads to a playable game.

Everyone here is talking out of their REAR END. These forums are not good for my blood pressure.

I would go to jail if I share with you the content of the book called "Squeezing the gambits".

That book should be in the library of any 1.d4 player that dares to call himself a serious player.

That book (and beat the Guerrillas) is used as a reference in d4 repertoire books.

4xe1, play both defense, one  for the weak players ( Englund's Gambit) and the other will be for the stronger player ( Budapest defense); you are fairly strong in tactics and you should be winning against most players at your rating level. I have my own defense against weak players KID or Modern defense or the Lion Defense because its very tactical.

Not really. I'm sure most 2200s who play 1. d4 don't own it.

besides, how would you know?

You see dpnorman, there is something called telepathy. 

Those 2200s who do not own the book are not real chess players, nor real 2200 players, they are also doomed to depend on tactics for the rest of their life.

Your playing strength is just as strong as your repertoire strength.

Alright. Enjoy your trolling.

https://www.amazon.com/Squeezing-Gambits-Benko-Budapest-Blumenfeld/dp/9548782758

the book, apparently, exists....

I am just going to say it: the Englund Gambit only gives black an edge if after Qe7 there is a Bf4 by white. Otherwise, it is not playable.