Fred Defense(1.e4 f5)

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Artur460
This forum is dedicated to fred defense(Duras gambit). Studying his options, answers, counter-gambits. Yes, just studying and trying to add it to the professional level.
Artur460

I have studied the Duras gambit for a long time and I know a lot of answers and tactics of development, but I cannot beat off one answer to this gambit. Can you help? It consists in this order of moves - 1.e4 f5 2.e4-e5 and what to do after that, how to walk with power in development, I do not know

Toad1258

you should 5ake on f5. the king will be weak and you will be threatening to check with the queen. your pawn will take after they block.

Artur460

So check and take doesn't work

 

Artur460
Toad1258 написал:

you should 5ake on f5. the king will be weak and you will be threatening to check with the queen. your pawn will take after they block.

This forum is dedicated to how to play the Duras Gambit.

 

 

Artur460

In particular, I have a question - how to play for Black in the position in the picture without damaging the pawn structure?

PunchboxNET
I am kind of noob, but I think g6 Bg7 attacks pawn very easily, and then play e6 Nc6
Artur460
PunchboxNET написал:
I am kind of noob, but I think g6 Bg7 attacks pawn very easily, and then play e6 Nc6

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean. You can write the order of moves for both sides, according to your tactics.

Artur460
Do you mean something like that

 

tygxc

2 exf5. To refute a gambit, accept it.

PunchboxNET
Yes.
Solmyr1234

Fred would be proud of this opening. let's play it, and have a g_y old time. Wilma!!!

 

Artur460
Ron_Saddleback написал:

The Fred defense is absolute garbage, I beat it once in the city blitz championships here in Kenton.

if you know how to play this gambit, it will be on a par with the Sicilian defense in strength, look at my next diagram

Artur460

here, for example, is a position similar to the king's gambit

Artur460

and in this game it turns out a good position in terms of attack

Gluonsghost
Artur460 wrote:

and in this game it turns out a good position in terms of attack

Well King Artur, I have a question? What happens after 3.Be2 intending Bh5 check ?

Its not like e7 available for the King to go to

Artur460
Preusseagro написал:
Artur460 hat geschrieben:
Ron_Saddleback написал:

Защита Фреда-абсолютный мусор, я однажды победил ее на городском чемпионате по блицу здесь, в Кентоне.

если вы знаете, как играть в этот гамбит, он будет наравне с сицилийской защитой по силе, посмотрите на мою следующую диаграмму

Может быть, это и не мусор, но он не так хорош, как сицилийский или КГ

if you know enough aspects of chess theory and, given the rarity, hence ignorance of this discovery, this may be your best answer to e4, especially since DG (Duras gambit) has far fewer options than the Sicilian defense and KG. So maybe DG is equal to the Sicilian defense and KG.

Artur460
Gluonsghost написал:
Artur460 wrote:

and in this game it turns out a good position in terms of attack

Well King Artur, I have a question? What happens after 3.Be2 intending Bh5 check ?

Its not like e7 available for the King to go to

I don't quite understand exactly what order of moves you have in mind, so I'll make diagrams

Artur460

I don't think this position is dangerous for the king. If that's what you meant, of course. In this position, White loses a lot of pace, and they already need to defend.

Mega_Brains

if 2. e5 after 1.e4 f5, the simply 2...d6