Fred Defense

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Davidmingming

Black sacrifices one or to pawns for a manual castle, but this does give White a better position and material ahead. (But White should play carefully to avoid big material loss.)

De-Lar
This doesn't seem very nice to me.  All black now has are minor pieces protecting the king.  And minor pieces should be used, not sitting back on guard detail.
Evil_Homer
yuck.
Davidmingming
I would definitely play as White because I would have advantage. : )
Davidmingming
If I play Black I could win as long he makes a mistake, most people unfamiliar would make some mistakes and I would win as Black.
Dozy
Maybe Caissa has a sense of humour after all.
Evil_Homer
young_roy123 wrote: you guys dont see the power this opening had.it is very strong and i can make it work anybody care for me to use it on them in a game

The "terrorist attack" is easily defended against, once it is recognised for what it is.


Evil_Homer

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=5466131

This is a game I played against this opening.  I am still very much a learner, so excuse the rough and readiness of the general gameplay, but I hope it is still instructive. 

 


Davidmingming
Evil_Homer wrote:

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=5466131

This is a game I played against this opening.  I am still very much a learner, so excuse the rough and readiness of the general gameplay, but I hope it is still instructive. 

 


 That's not the Fred, it is e4 e5.


Evil_Homer
Davidmingming wrote: Evil_Homer wrote:

http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=5466131

This is a game I played against this opening.  I am still very much a learner, so excuse the rough and readiness of the general gameplay, but I hope it is still instructive. 

 


 That's notthe Fred, it is e4 e5.


Apologies if I got it wrong, but I was referring specifically to the post by young_roy123, who was speaking about the power of the opening.  On that basis, I adjudged Black's opening response to E4 to be irrelevant.


God2
huh?I cant understand well
MrKalukioh

The white side of this is the "Tumbleweed gambit" 1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Kf2 Qh4+ 4. g3 fxg3+ 5. Kg2 etc.

Its not as bad as you'd think (assuming you only play it for fun): white's only developed piece is a queen thats just waiting to be chased around, black has many open lines, a possible mobile center, and better development. Then there's the reason why I try it at times: white instinctively gets the feeling that he must mate black due to his open king (but will sometimes just waste clock time thinking or go for flawed cheapos), but its actually quite difficult without other pieces.


Davidmingming
Danish gambit played by Jrobi, found on youtube.com
hondoham

Fred's dead, Baby. Fred's dead. 


Davidmingming
Beginners can play them, but I don't like to play it.
Gabriel_dCF
rich wrote:

This is almost as bad as the boungcloud attack.


 Maybe we should call that opening "The Boungcloud Defense"


Davidmingming
What about "Fred's Boungcloud Defense"?
pompom

Marshal_Dillon
I don't play any defense that gives away all the king pawns in the first few moves and corners the king. The Fred is easily crushed by the Mao Tse Tung Attack. 
tricksypatzer
I figure that even if Kasparov used that defense against me, I'd prolly still win.