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mehrdadchess

what do you think about best variant against french defense ?

my137thaccount

3.Nc3 followed by 4.e5.

 

stefanbusch

2. Qe2 has some practical value

OldPatzerMike
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us. wink.png

blueemu
mehrdadchess wrote:

what do you think about best variant against french defense ?

2. d3

 

blueemu

In addition to the example in Fischer's "My 60 Memorable Games", his game against Myagmarsuren from the Sousse Interzonal is worth playing over.

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1044267

ygchess123

i like this variation

my137thaccount
ygchess123 wrote:

i like this variation

The question was 'against the French Defense' not 'in the French Defense'. Nobody plays 3...c5 because of 4.exd5.

ThrillerFan
IAMBBW wrote:
OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

The most useless people on the planet are 72-year olds that insist on border walls and chess.com users that diss the French Defense!

 

GET LOST FOOL!

ThrillerFan
blueemu wrote:
mehrdadchess wrote:

what do you think about best variant against french defense ?

2. d3

 

blueemu,

 

The line you give is VASTLY INFERIOR with bad defense shown by Black!

13.Bh3 is not good.  Better is 13.N1h2, or also a couple of other options.

 

The sacrifice on e6 is of not threat at all.  Your proposal for Black of 13...h6 is utter BS.  Especially in the King's Indian Attack, do not advance pawns on the side in which you are weak unless ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.  13...h6 is NOT absolutely necessary, and just weakens Black's King.

 

 

my137thaccount
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

Well I wouldn't call Victor Korchnoi usless in his eighties he would beat anyone on here with his French defence, I have a friend Alan Knight former county champion rating at his height was 187 Ecf played the French Defence ....Classical Lines with Nf6 for over 35 years and took out some strong scalps I.M John Cox and the Late F.M Vic Knox so served him well so I would recommend it to any new to the game student, why no need to worry about any dirty tricks on F7 square both the French and Caro-Kann offer this to anyone starting out stick to your guns what your comfortable with I say!

 

No matter what it still is the most useless defense of all time

Why?

ThrillerFan
IAMBBW wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

The most useless people on the planet are 72-year olds that insist on border walls and chess.com users that diss the French Defense!

 

GET LOST FOOL!

Not in fighting mood these days so can you shut up or you want me to SHUT YOU UP

 

This is America and I have a right to free speech, so you ain't shutting me up!

ThrillerFan
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

my137thaccount wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

Well I wouldn't call Victor Korchnoi usless in his eighties he would beat anyone on here with his French defence, I have a friend Alan Knight former county champion rating at his height was 187 Ecf played the French Defence ....Classical Lines with Nf6 for over 35 years and took out some strong scalps I.M John Cox and the Late F.M Vic Knox so served him well so I would recommend it to any new to the game student, why no need to worry about any dirty tricks on F7 square both the French and Caro-Kann offer this to anyone starting out stick to your guns what your comfortable with I say!

 

No matter what it still is the most useless defense of all time

Why?

Why not ?

 

Pretty good for Usless still winning games and will continue to do so .... must be annoying LOL

 

 

Eh, don't listen to the clown!  Only useless people deem the French Defense a useless weapon for Black!

ThrillerFan
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

ThrillerFan wrote:

 

Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

my137thaccount wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

Well I wouldn't call Victor Korchnoi usless in his eighties he would beat anyone on here with his French defence, I have a friend Alan Knight former county champion rating at his height was 187 Ecf played the French Defence ....Classical Lines with Nf6 for over 35 years and took out some strong scalps I.M John Cox and the Late F.M Vic Knox so served him well so I would recommend it to any new to the game student, why no need to worry about any dirty tricks on F7 square both the French and Caro-Kann offer this to anyone starting out stick to your guns what your comfortable with I say!

 

No matter what it still is the most useless defense of all time

Why?

Why not ?

 

Pretty good for Usless still winning games and will continue to do so .... must be annoying LOL

 

 

Eh, don't listen to the clown!  Only useless people deem the French Defense a useless weapon for Black!

 

Well maybe this person who is Anti French Defence as had some bad results against the opening himself so hates everyone who uses it, I had Victor Korchnoi do a simul at our club I will get him to pop over for you mate thumbs up!!

 

FOR NON-BRAINERS:- I said that the french defense is the most useless defense of all time , what's your problem ? It's my opinion , no matter how many GM's say that french defense is good , I don't care , it will still be the most useless defense of all time (for me) , you guys said that this defense is good, yeah it might be good for you guys but it ain't for me ,I just said that it's the most useless defense of all time to the op not to you guys ,but you guys started this argument with me , so let me be clear , first of all I have never lost to french defense and even if I do it will still be the most useless defense of all time for me and you guys can continue this argument of french defense with me ( if you want to now ) but believe me I WILL END THIS

 

Back at ya!  What's your problem?  My opinion is that those that diss the French are idiots!

BL4D3RUNN3R

2. Qe2 is a tricky line to get a favourite version of the KIA. I played it successfully (mostly 2.d3 and 3.Qe2 though).

Just for the reason of bragging: 14.Ne5! was a novelty of mine, found otb. It found it's way in the mighty Informant #102.

 

 

BL4D3RUNN3R
BL4D3RUNN3R hat geschrieben:

2. Qe2 is a tricky line to get a favourite version of the KIA. I played it successfully (mostly 2.d3 and 3.Qe2 though).

Just for the reason of bragging: 14.Ne5! was a novelty of mine, found otb. It found it's way in

 

Like this: https://www.chess.com/forum/view/game-showcase/mate-in-16-executed-in-an-otb-tournament-game-vienna-open

ThrillerFan
IAMBBW wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

ThrillerFan wrote:

 

Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

my137thaccount wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

Well I wouldn't call Victor Korchnoi usless in his eighties he would beat anyone on here with his French defence, I have a friend Alan Knight former county champion rating at his height was 187 Ecf played the French Defence ....Classical Lines with Nf6 for over 35 years and took out some strong scalps I.M John Cox and the Late F.M Vic Knox so served him well so I would recommend it to any new to the game student, why no need to worry about any dirty tricks on F7 square both the French and Caro-Kann offer this to anyone starting out stick to your guns what your comfortable with I say!

 

No matter what it still is the most useless defense of all time

Why?

Why not ?

 

Pretty good for Usless still winning games and will continue to do so .... must be annoying LOL

 

 

Eh, don't listen to the clown!  Only useless people deem the French Defense a useless weapon for Black!

 

Well maybe this person who is Anti French Defence as had some bad results against the opening himself so hates everyone who uses it, I had Victor Korchnoi do a simul at our club I will get him to pop over for you mate thumbs up!!

 

FOR NON-BRAINERS:- I said that the french defense is the most useless defense of all time , what's your problem ? It's my opinion , no matter how many GM's say that french defense is good , I don't care , it will still be the most useless defense of all time (for me) , you guys said that this defense is good, yeah it might be good for you guys but it ain't for me ,I just said that it's the most useless defense of all time to the op not to you guys ,but you guys started this argument with me , so let me be clear , first of all I have never lost to french defense and even if I do it will still be the most useless defense of all time for me and you guys can continue this argument of french defense with me ( if you want to now ) but believe me I WILL END THIS

 

Back at ya!  What's your problem?  My opinion is that those that diss the French are idiots!

Then you're the no.1 e-diot in this forum if that's your opinion

 

Let's also point out that I'm higher rated than you, and have over 20 years experience of playing the French, particularly as Black but also to a lesser degree the White side as well, and so hearing such rubbish from some clown that doesn't even play the defense and is lower rated just makes said 1800 player sound retarded!

Chessflyfisher
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

ThrillerFan wrote:

 

Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

my137thaccount wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

Well I wouldn't call Victor Korchnoi usless in his eighties he would beat anyone on here with his French defence, I have a friend Alan Knight former county champion rating at his height was 187 Ecf played the French Defence ....Classical Lines with Nf6 for over 35 years and took out some strong scalps I.M John Cox and the Late F.M Vic Knox so served him well so I would recommend it to any new to the game student, why no need to worry about any dirty tricks on F7 square both the French and Caro-Kann offer this to anyone starting out stick to your guns what your comfortable with I say!

 

No matter what it still is the most useless defense of all time

Why?

Why not ?

 

Pretty good for Usless still winning games and will continue to do so .... must be annoying LOL

 

 

Eh, don't listen to the clown!  Only useless people deem the French Defense a useless weapon for Black!

 

Well maybe this person who is Anti French Defence as had some bad results against the opening himself so hates everyone who uses it, I had Victor Korchnoi do a simul at our club I will get him to pop over for you mate thumbs up!!

 

FOR NON-BRAINERS:- I said that the french defense is the most useless defense of all time , what's your problem ? It's my opinion , no matter how many GM's say that french defense is good , I don't care , it will still be the most useless defense of all time (for me) , you guys said that this defense is good, yeah it might be good for you guys but it ain't for me ,I just said that it's the most useless defense of all time to the op not to you guys ,but you guys started this argument with me , so let me be clear , first of all I have never lost to french defense and even if I do it will still be the most useless defense of all time for me and you guys can continue this argument of french defense with me ( if you want to now ) but believe me I WILL END THIS

 

Back at ya!  What's your problem?  My opinion is that those that diss the French are idiots!

Then you're the no.1 e-diot in this forum if that's your opinion

 

Let's also point out that I'm higher rated than you, and have over 20 years experience of playing the French, particularly as Black but also to a lesser degree the White side as well, and so hearing such rubbish from some clown that doesn't even play the defense and is lower rated just makes said 1800 player sound retarded!

Maybe IAMBBW comes from a very isolated area of Switzerland and he is, unfortunately, a product of a cousin marrying a cousin resulting in severe retardation of their offspring. In the USA, especially in Appalachia and many areas of the Deep South, this sad situation has occurred too many times in the past. We should extend to him our sympathies and be still willing to try to educate him. We Chess players must try to help out one another and particularly try harder to help those who reject our efforts. If they continue to refuse our help, then they are either mentally ill or truly retarded. A very good point to be made, in my opinion, is that just because a person does not play a certain opening or defence it does not necessarily follow that that particular system is intrinsically no good. It can simply be that it is not applicable to a person`s style. I`d like to finish my thoughts with a few observations about peoples`s opinions: True, we are all entitled to our opinions and we are not obligated in the least to have to explain why we conclude in any particular fashion. But if one cannot explain why they do not like something, one usually appears in the eyes of many to be either very uneducated, of a very diminished mental capacity or both. Let us not forget that people who suffer severe head trauma from for example falling off a mountaintop in the Alps or the Himalayas can still function but may lose the ability to think clearly on more sophisticated things like Chess.

ThrillerFan
IAMBBW wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

ThrillerFan wrote:

 

Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

my137thaccount wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

Well I wouldn't call Victor Korchnoi usless in his eighties he would beat anyone on here with his French defence, I have a friend Alan Knight former county champion rating at his height was 187 Ecf played the French Defence ....Classical Lines with Nf6 for over 35 years and took out some strong scalps I.M John Cox and the Late F.M Vic Knox so served him well so I would recommend it to any new to the game student, why no need to worry about any dirty tricks on F7 square both the French and Caro-Kann offer this to anyone starting out stick to your guns what your comfortable with I say!

 

No matter what it still is the most useless defense of all time

Why?

Why not ?

 

Pretty good for Usless still winning games and will continue to do so .... must be annoying LOL

 

 

Eh, don't listen to the clown!  Only useless people deem the French Defense a useless weapon for Black!

 

Well maybe this person who is Anti French Defence as had some bad results against the opening himself so hates everyone who uses it, I had Victor Korchnoi do a simul at our club I will get him to pop over for you mate thumbs up!!

 

FOR NON-BRAINERS:- I said that the french defense is the most useless defense of all time , what's your problem ? It's my opinion , no matter how many GM's say that french defense is good , I don't care , it will still be the most useless defense of all time (for me) , you guys said that this defense is good, yeah it might be good for you guys but it ain't for me ,I just said that it's the most useless defense of all time to the op not to you guys ,but you guys started this argument with me , so let me be clear , first of all I have never lost to french defense and even if I do it will still be the most useless defense of all time for me and you guys can continue this argument of french defense with me ( if you want to now ) but believe me I WILL END THIS

 

Back at ya!  What's your problem?  My opinion is that those that diss the French are idiots!

Then you're the no.1 e-diot in this forum if that's your opinion

 

Let's also point out that I'm higher rated than you, and have over 20 years experience of playing the French, particularly as Black but also to a lesser degree the White side as well, and so hearing such rubbish from some clown that doesn't even play the defense and is lower rated just makes said 1800 player sound retarded!

Do you have any idea who you're talking too

 

The Pope?

Gordon Ramsey?

Jesus Christ?

All I know is whichever fool I'm talking to, he is clueless at assessing the French Defense.  Doesn't matter if you are some guru of Catholicism or Cooking!  You are clueless about chess!

ThrillerFan
Chessflyfisher wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

ThrillerFan wrote:

 

Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

my137thaccount wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:
Mrmerbs57 wrote:

 

IAMBBW wrote:

 

OldPatzerMike wrote:
IAMBBW wrote:

Most useless defense of all time

Perhaps useless to you, mon ami. But quite useful to some of us.

I am gonna repeat :- Most useless defense of all time

 

Well I wouldn't call Victor Korchnoi usless in his eighties he would beat anyone on here with his French defence, I have a friend Alan Knight former county champion rating at his height was 187 Ecf played the French Defence ....Classical Lines with Nf6 for over 35 years and took out some strong scalps I.M John Cox and the Late F.M Vic Knox so served him well so I would recommend it to any new to the game student, why no need to worry about any dirty tricks on F7 square both the French and Caro-Kann offer this to anyone starting out stick to your guns what your comfortable with I say!

 

No matter what it still is the most useless defense of all time

Why?

Why not ?

 

Pretty good for Usless still winning games and will continue to do so .... must be annoying LOL

 

 

Eh, don't listen to the clown!  Only useless people deem the French Defense a useless weapon for Black!

 

Well maybe this person who is Anti French Defence as had some bad results against the opening himself so hates everyone who uses it, I had Victor Korchnoi do a simul at our club I will get him to pop over for you mate thumbs up!!

 

FOR NON-BRAINERS:- I said that the french defense is the most useless defense of all time , what's your problem ? It's my opinion , no matter how many GM's say that french defense is good , I don't care , it will still be the most useless defense of all time (for me) , you guys said that this defense is good, yeah it might be good for you guys but it ain't for me ,I just said that it's the most useless defense of all time to the op not to you guys ,but you guys started this argument with me , so let me be clear , first of all I have never lost to french defense and even if I do it will still be the most useless defense of all time for me and you guys can continue this argument of french defense with me ( if you want to now ) but believe me I WILL END THIS

 

Back at ya!  What's your problem?  My opinion is that those that diss the French are idiots!

Then you're the no.1 e-diot in this forum if that's your opinion

 

Let's also point out that I'm higher rated than you, and have over 20 years experience of playing the French, particularly as Black but also to a lesser degree the White side as well, and so hearing such rubbish from some clown that doesn't even play the defense and is lower rated just makes said 1800 player sound retarded!

Maybe IAMBBW comes from a very isolated area of Switzerland and he is, unfortunately, a product of a cousin marrying a cousin resulting in severe retardation of their offspring. In the USA, especially in Appalachia and many areas of the Deep South, this sad situation has occurred too many times in the past. We should extend to him our sympathies and be still willing to try to educate him. We Chess players must try to help out one another and particularly try harder to help those who reject our efforts. If they continue to refuse our help, then they are either mentally ill or truly retarded. A very good point to be made, in my opinion, is that just because a person does not play a certain opening or defence it does not necessarily follow that that particular system is intrinsically no good. It can simply be that it is not applicable to a person`s style. I`d like to finish my thoughts with a few observations about peoples`s opinions: True, we are all entitled to our opinions and we are not obligated in the least to have to explain why we conclude in any particular fashion. But if one cannot explain why they do not like something, one usually appears in the eyes of many to be either very uneducated, of a very diminished mental capacity or both. Let us not forget that people who suffer severe head trauma from for example falling off a mountaintop in the Alps or the Himalayas can still function but may lose the ability to think clearly on more sophisticated things like Chess.

 

You sound like the type of person that wanted to free Ted Bundy or Charles Manson.  I want criminals in prison, not let out.  That goes for Paul Manifort, Bill Cosby, OJ Simpson, Donald Trump, and yes, IAMBBW!  Throw away the key!