French Defense Problem....

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schlechter55

Wolfgang Uhlmann has shown that the variant 6.a3 c4!, with the idea of a fast f7-f6 gives Black a good game.

Likhit1
schlechter55 wrote:

I do not believe that the variant 1.e4 e6, 2.d4 d5, 3.e5 c5, 4.c3 Nc6, 5.Nf3 Qb6 gives White any theoretical advantage, in none of the pathes 6.Be2,  6.Bd3 and 6.a3.

a3 is pretty annoying for Black after Qb6.But it isn't as effective against 6.Bd7.7.a3,f6 gives black an easy game.

schlechter55

Likhit, your thread makes no sense. Check the numbers of your moves, or give the whole variants.

Likhit1
schlechter55 wrote:

Likhit, your thread makes no sense. Check the numbers of your moves, or give the whole variants.

Sorry.

a3 is slightly annoying for Black in this position.Although i didn't know about uhlmann's Idea.

But a3 is not as effective in this position because of f6.In many lines the Queen can come to c7 to pressurise the e5 pawn.


Likhit1

Thnx for the info.I don't play the advance french as white.The reason i felt a3 was annoying because from the dvd through which i learnd the french,6.Bd7 was reccomended because the author considered a3 as annoying after Qb6.

ThrillerFan
schlechter55 wrote:
pfren wrote:

The french LSB is bad only if you treat him badly.

I agree 100%.

Ruy Lopez: Black imprisons his Bishop on e7.

QG, Orthodox defense: Black imprisons his Bishop on c8.

Both defenses are alive, and played until now.

Many others lead to bad bishops, but nobody seems to notice because the Bishop has extra useless squares to go to, so it has slightly more room to manouver, but still is just flat out bad!

Case in point - Why doesn't anybody ever complain about Black's dark-squared bishop here?  It's all about knowing how to handle bad bishops, not avoiding them!



molokombo

and if black doesn't play the system with c4?

schlechter55

bluebird. You can say what you want. Uhlmann is better than you.

I am VERY confident about the quality of 6....c4.

Databases show NO advantage for white.

schlechter55

bluebird, I challenge you. I want to have black, and we play 1.e4 e6, 2.d4 d5, 3.e5 c5, 4.c3 Nc6, 5.Nf3 Qb6, 6.a3 c4.

schlechter55

bluebird, can you accept my challenge ?

TitanCG
schlechter55 wrote:bluebird. You can say what you want. Uhlmann is better than you.I am VERY confident about the quality of 6....c4.Databases show NO advantage for white.
The database can be used to make an argument but the remark about Uhlman cannot. The question is about the theoretical value of the move and not a player's ability to use it. A simple example:
A scientist says that 1+1=3. I say 1+1=2. Is he correct even if we assume that he is better at math than I am? When expanding on this example to less obvious situations we can clearly see how this type of thinking can be problematic.
schlechter55

With the same argument you just gave, I take the liberty to be sceptical: why is the opinion of a chess.com member more valid than the opinionS otherS  ?

TitanCG

If the opinion is actually fact then it won't matter because there will be proof of a moves correctness. 

asvpcurtis
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schlechter55

bluebird gave only his opinion, I have read games and analysed them.

BhomasTrown
Likhit1 wrote:

Please don't take post #2 seriously.The bad light squared bishop is the major drawback of the french defense.But there are various lines in which this problem can be solved.For ex.

 

So after 42. Ke7?

asvpcurtis
Bluebird1964 wrote:

Molokombo, quite right black can play 6...a5 or something else. But 6..c4 has been considered the most accurate move and the main line for years. I believe the system with 7.Nbd2.8g3 followed by 9.h4 to be white's strongest plan. This was my analysis from late 1980s early 90s. I believe black has serious problems.

you mean like this?(i might get the move order a little mixed up but it shouldn't really matter)

black looks comfortable to me because either white either capture en passent and black looks prepared to bust open the centre maybe after he castles if he wants or you leave the pawn and get mated on the kingside

D_for_DJ
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DefinitelyNotGM
D_for_DJ wrote:
DefinitelyNotGM wrote:
D_for_DJ wrote:
Ritesh1304 wrote:

My white bishop becomes bad bishop every time ....is it my fault or fault of opening .......

Fault of the opening. That is why no one plays the french seriously at top level. Switch to the Najdorf and never look back.


Here is an example of the true power of the najdorf! Making a Master level player look like a chump. 


 


 

What exactly is wrong with the Closed Sicilian? And don't make openings into puzzles, they become a test of telepathy/lucky guessing. Even Chess Mentor makes that mistake in the course 'Be ready for the Reti'

Nothing is wrong with the Closed Sicilian. If your fine with a draw, then it's a perfect opening for you. 

Not all variations of the Closed Sicilian are passive. Who would call the Grand Prix Attack passive?

Mainline_Novelty
DefinitelyNotGM wrote:
D_for_DJ wrote:
DefinitelyNotGM wrote:
D_for_DJ wrote:
Ritesh1304 wrote:

My white bishop becomes bad bishop every time ....is it my fault or fault of opening .......

Fault of the opening. That is why no one plays the french seriously at top level. Switch to the Najdorf and never look back.


Here is an example of the true power of the najdorf! Making a Master level player look like a chump. 


 


 

What exactly is wrong with the Closed Sicilian? And don't make openings into puzzles, they become a test of telepathy/lucky guessing. Even Chess Mentor makes that mistake in the course 'Be ready for the Reti'

Nothing is wrong with the Closed Sicilian. If your fine with a draw, then it's a perfect opening for you. 

Not all variations of the Closed Sicilian are passive. Who would call the Grand Prix Attack passive?

Grand Prix Attack =/= Closed Sicilian

Anyways, I have no idea where people get the impression that the Closed Sicilian (with g3) is passive...